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Re: A possible GFDL compromise



Le lun 25/08/2003 à 08:38, Sergey V. Spiridonov a écrit :
> Josselin Mouette wrote:
> 
> > Do you realize you are reasoning just like the proprietary software
> > folks the FDL is supposedly meant to fight ?
> 
> There is a basic difference between free software foundation folks and 
> proprietary software folks. But both try to use practical and ethical 
> reasoning. As Josselin Mouette said:
> 
>  > Can't you understand nobody would ask for removing these sections if
>  > they were as free as the FSF would like to call them ?
> 
> This is a good example of the freedom, which is not used. So, why not to 
> take away it? GPL does similar things, it takes away the freedom of 
> using proprietary code with the GPL code from user. But we got something 
> in exchange - wide free software and documentation spreading.

GPL doesn't take away freedom. It is a copyleft, full stop. As long as
you respect the copyleft, you are free to do anything you want with the
software. There is no limitation in what you can do, the limitation is
on how you have to do it.

The GFDL is very different. It adds restrictions you often find in
proprietary software: discrimination against fields of endeavour,
restrictions on modification.

> I do not think Debian can safely ignore proprietary software existence, 
> as some people on this list do[1]. If the world would be 
> black-and-white, I will put FDL on the white side of the black-and-white 
> world, together with GPL, FSF, Debian.

We are not talking about color of things. We are talking about their
DFSG-freeness.

> While we discussing FDL, clearly non-free software is still disributed 
> by Debian.

I already answered on that specific issue [1], are you *again* trying to
move the discussion to a completely unrelated point?

 [1] http://lists.debian.org/debian-legal/2003/debian-legal-200308/msg00771.html
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