On Wed, Feb 27, 2002 at 10:33:45PM -0800, Walter Landry wrote: > Sam Hartman <hartmans@debian.org> wrote: > So we're going to put a notice on the US websites telling people that, > if they want to use the software for nukes, they can't get it here but > have to go to a non-us mirror? Isn't this basically what the lawyer > suggested? I thought we had all agreed that that was a use > restriction. I'm not really sure why you'd think that. I don't think anyone else has claimed anything similar. I'm also not really sure why everyone wants to make this into such a big thing. Seriously: everyone putting their 2c in just isn't useful. It might be fun for you, but it's a nuisance and a waste of time for the people who're actually trying to get some work done. If you've got some $100 comments, then sure, we're all ears, but if you're just looking for some excuse to "contribute", and if you're not even trained in the subject, well don't. Write some code instead. To reiterate: at the moment, Debian is being crippled by the lack of integrated cryptography. A number of years ago, the regulations that forced this lack of integration were relaxed. A number of months ago, Debian obtained advice from a trained legal expert as to what is necessary to integrate cryptography without seriously impacting the other things we do. That advice was to send the appropriate notifications before distributing packages and to not have official mirrors in T7 countries. Sending in notifications is not very arduous, and we don't even have any unofficial mirrors in T7 countries. We further obtained advice to pass on to US mirror operators on what liability that could incur for mirroring cryptography, and were advised that while there was basically none, they could further protect themselves by displaying the aforementioned disclaimer and/or implementing reverse lookup blocking of T7 countries. Since the entire point of US mirrors is to make Debian available to US citizens, and that this doesn't interfere at all with what non-US mirrors do, this isn't considered a problem. If you have anything worthwhile to add to this, then please, add it. If you're just personally offended by the prospect of obeying US law, well, that's fine, whatever. You're not a developer, and you're welcome to think whatever you want. Please don't waste everyone's time by trying to twist the social contract into an excuse to make Debian adopt your personal prejudices though. Cheers, aj -- Anthony Towns <aj@humbug.org.au> <http://azure.humbug.org.au/~aj/> We came. We Saw. We Conferenced. http://linux.conf.au/ ``Debian: giving you the power to shoot yourself in each toe individually.'' -- with kudos to Greg Lehey
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