Re: Automounter in KDE
> I'm finding this discussion somwhat frustrating because no one seems to be
> able to say clearly what KDE can or can't do.
It's probably because KDE has too many configurable options and relatively
often with some of them it's not clear what they actually do, how they should
work and how they should be setup. Some things work in one distribution but
not work in another one, or sometimes they work and sometimes just stop
working and therefore it is very hard to understand is it bug in one
distribution or just an improovement in another one. However for example
GNOME gives nearly the same everywhere (of course it doesn't mean that it's
better than KDE). Maybe it fixed in KDE 3.4.X, but in KDE 3.3.2. there is a
bug (you can find it at the KDE'S bug tracking system) which block the eject
of CD's and the only way to do that is login as root and do eject as root, or
disable doorlocking in sysconfig files.
------- Original message -------
From: "C. Hurschler" <list.hurschler@gmx.de>
To: debian-kde@lists.debian.org
Subject: Re: Automounter in KDE
Date: 8 Август 2005 22:51
> I'm finding this discussion somwhat frustrating because no one seems to be
> able to say clearly what KDE can or can't do. I also find it strange that
> this doesn't "just work" since it is somthing that just about every desktop
> user needs to do every day. Here are some observations I´ve made:
>
> Kanotix mounts and places links to USB devices on the KDE desktop just as
> one would expect, so it is possible (why shouldn't it be?). When the
> device is removed the link dissapears from the desktop. I don't know what
> packages or scripts or whatever are used to achieve this.
>
> I also noticed that on my Sarge system with KDE 3.4.1 I can add the applet
> "Storage Media" to my Panel. When I insert a cdrom it appears as an Icon
> in the Panel. I can open the cdrom in a Konqueror window or eject it (this
> works contraty to what another poster says). I have the following line in
> my fstab:
>
> /dev/hdc /media/cdrom iso9660 ro,user,noauto 0 0
>
> I run usbmount so I don't have any sdxx entries in fstab. I run fstab
> becaue I gave up on trying to create an fstab entry for every possible
> combination of partition and device that I encounter. When I plug in a USB
> device one or two USB Icons are place in Panel by "Storage Media". I can
> open the device in a Konqueror window, but if I try to "Safely Remove" the
> device I get some error about no line being present in fstab for the
> device. I have a link to sync on my desktop so that I can unplug the
> devices safely (recommended in the mountusb documentation). I`d kind of
> like the USB devices to work like the CDROM does i.e. with a remove feature
> that works.
>
> Regds,
>
> Chris
>
> On Monday 08 August 2005 17:11, Roman Kreisel wrote:
> > On Monday 08 August 2005 14:59, Anders Ellenshøj Andersen wrote:Pa
> >
> > > Hmm.. I think the kernel automounter should be able to handle this..
> >
> > Which one? There several, i tested some of them and none of them fitted
> > my needs.
> >
> > > Anyway, for me the biggest issue in all this has always been that you
> > > couldn't eject a cdrom with the eject button on the drive once the
> > > device was mounted.
> >
> > /proc/sys/dev/cdrom/lock
> > But remember you're brutally removing the Disc. You don't know how the
> > applications will behave, which still access the disc. It might even
> > possible (i'm not sure right now), that the disc remains mounted.
> >
> > > The system should be able to unmount the device regardsless of which
> > > resources are using it when you press the eject button. You know best
> > > if you want the disk out or not, the system shouldn't restrict you in
> > > doing this.
> >
> > I think this choice shouldn't be made by you or by me, but by every
> > single user. And i think locking the drives by default is ok.
> >
> > > Same thing with usb storage. The system should auto-unmount the device
> > > if you unplug it.
> >
> > And how's that supposed to work? Once you removed the stick it's already
> > away. Your computer cannot finish pending operations like clearing it's
> > buffers. You HAVE to umount it before removing. Even on other Systems
> > that's the way to go.
> >
> > Well, you could mount the drive in sync-mode (beginning with 2.6.12 it
> > should also work with FAT. But remember we're talking about flash-drives.
> > They only can be flashed limited times. If you use sync, every operation
> > will immediatley trigger writing the data to the usb-stick. Your
> > USB-Stick might become unusable much earlier.
> >
> > > Anders
> >
> > Regards
> > Roman
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