Steve, I have just seen your post Re: proposal for the KDE 3.3 transition http://lists.debian.org/debian-release/2004/12/msg00079.html What is your best guess, when the transition will happen? I will upgrade a few systems from woody -> sarge over X-mas and testing KDE 3.3.1 would be welcome. I do jigo DVD images for that process. Thanks, Rainer