What is keeping 'kde' metapackage out of Woody?
And, where exactly in the Debian package system database web info pages
can this info be found?
I started with
http://www.debian.org/distrib/packages
and did a search on keyword 'kde', no searching on subwords, any distro.
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That gave:
Debian package search results
Release Package (size)
unstable kde 4:2.2.18 (6.8k) http://packages.debian.org/unstable/x11/kde.html
The K Desktop Environment Responses 1-1 shown, out of total of 1.
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http://packages.debian.org/unstable/x11/kde.html shows:
Package: kde 4:2.2.18
The K Desktop Environment
A metapackage containing dependencies for the core suite of KDE including
kdelibs, kdebase, kdeadmin, kdegraphics, kdemultimedia, kdenetwork,
kdepim, koffice, and kdeutils.
Provides Suggests and Recommends for all other KDE based packages.
Does not contain depends for Toys, Games, or Development packages.
Other packages related to kde: ...
...
View the list of files in kde
http://packages.debian.org/cgi-bin/search_contents.pl?searchmode=filelist&;
word=kde&version=unstable
Check for bug reports about kde http://bugs.debian.org/kde
Source Code: [dsc] [meta-kde_2.2.18.tar.gz]
Ivan E. Moore II is responsible for this Debian package.
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Link http://bugs.debian.org/kde actually pulls up page
http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/pkgreport.cgi?pkg=kde
Which is for a package kde, not the metapackage, because it says that at
the 4th sentence of that page.
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Debian Bug report logs: package kde
Maintainer for kde is rkrusty@debian.org (Ivan E. Moore II).
You may want to refer to the following packages that are part of the same
source: anti-aliasing-howto, kde-devel, kde-extras, kde-games.
You might like to refer to the kde package page, or to the source package
meta-kde's bug page.
http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/pkgreport.cgi?src=meta-kde&repeatmerged=yes
Important bugs - outstanding (A list of all such bugs used to be available).
#130688: kde: fonts in kde2.2.2 look very ugly, if i try to use
iso8859-15-support (euro-support)
Package: kde; Severity: important; Reported by: 520017751479-0001@t-online.de
(Marc Schöchlin); 10 days old.
#131834: kde: Problems with accented characters
Package: kde; Severity: important; Reported by: <szo@ies.hu>.
Normal bugs - outstanding (A list of all such bugs used to be available).
#123466: kde depends on x-display-manager?
Package: kde; Reported by: John R.Daily <jdaily@progeny.com>; Tags: wontfix;
54 days old.
#124000: kde: Problems with accented characters
Package: kde; Reported by: <szo@ies.hu>; 51 days old.
#128333: kdm doesn't appear as x-window-manager alternative
Package: kde; Reported by: Mark Bucciarelli <mark@easymailings.com>; 26 days
old.
#129006: kde has unmet dependency - kpackage
Package: kde; Reported by: John Habermann <habbers@tpg.com.au>; 21 days old.
Normal bugs - resolved (A list of all such bugs used to be available).
#112137: kde: fonts cannot be chosen in kde apps (kpresent/kword etc) charset
problem
Package: kde; Reported by: stefan@alfredsson.org; Tags: unreproducible;
Done: Daniel Stone <daniel@sfarc.net>.
(Closed Bugs are archived 28 days after the last related message is
received.)
Debian bug tracking system administrator <owner@bugs.debian.org>.
Last modified: Sun, 3 Feb 2002 22:14:22 UTC
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1) What is package kde? I've heard of kde-base, and the 'kde'
metapackage, but not a 'regular' package called 'kde'.
2) Is a bug of level 'important' able to keep a package out of W?
Looking at the above mentioned kde metapackage page we find
http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/pkgreport.cgi?src=meta-kde&repeatmerged=yes
=========================================================================
Debian Bug report logs: source meta-kde
Maintainer for source package meta-kde is rkrusty@debian.org (Ivan E.
Moore II). You may want to refer to the following individual bug pages:
anti-aliasing-howto, kde, kde-devel, kde-extras, kde-games, meta-kde.
Important bugs - outstanding (A list of all such bugs used to be available).
#130688: kde: fonts in kde2.2.2 look very ugly, if i try to use
iso8859-15-support (euro-support) Package: kde; Severity: important;
Reported by: 520017751479-0001@t-online.de (Marc Schöchlin); 10 days old.
#131834: kde: Problems with accented characters Package: kde; Severity:
important; Reported by: <szo@ies.hu>.
Normal bugs - outstanding (A list of all such bugs used to be available).
#123466: kde depends on x-display-manager?
Package: kde; Reported by: John R.Daily <jdaily@progeny.com>; Tags:
wontfix; 54 days old. #124000: kde: Problems with accented characters
Package: kde; Reported by: <szo@ies.hu>; 51 days old.
#128333: kdm doesn't appear as x-window-manager alternative
Package: kde; Reported by: Mark Bucciarelli <mark@easymailings.com>; 26 days
old.
#129006: kde has unmet dependency - kpackage
Package: kde; Reported by: John Habermann <habbers@tpg.com.au>; 21 days old.
Wishlist items - outstanding (A list of all such bugs used to be available).
#128350: anti-aliasing-howto: Package name doesn't match description
Package: anti-aliasing-howto; Severity: wishlist;
Reported by: theorb@iname.com; 26 days old.
#128354: anti-aliasing-howto: Doesn't have any GTK information.
Package: anti-aliasing-howto; Severity: wishlist;
Reported by: theorb@iname.com; 26 days old.
Normal bugs - resolved (A list of all such bugs used to be available).
#112137: kde: fonts cannot be chosen in kde apps (kpresent/kword etc) charset
problem
Package: kde; Reported by: stefan@alfredsson.org; Tags: unreproducible;
Done: Daniel Stone <daniel@sfarc.net>.
(Closed Bugs are archived 28 days after the last related message is
received.)
Debian bug tracking system administrator <owner@bugs.debian.org>.
Last modified: Sun, 3 Feb 2002 22:15:40 UTC
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So now we've found the kde metapackage info, and the most important bug is
'important'. Is _that_ what is keeping the kde metapackage out of Woody?
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Searching down from http://http.us.debian.org
[and this can be screwed up, I think. Sometimes it works, sometines it
doesn't, cause that url is multi-homed to different archives. The exact
path to the file depends on which archive you get. :( ]
Anyway, if you get the _real_ debian archive, not a mirror, and go down to
http://http.us.debian.org/dists/sid/main/binary-i386/
then look in the 'Packages' file - Warning - 6 MB file size!
(DL the .gz version - 1.6 MB)
http://http.us.debian.org/dists/sid/main/binary-i386/Packages
you will see the kde metapackage info:
=========================================================================
Package: kde
Priority: optional
Section: x11
Installed-Size: 48
Maintainer: Ivan E. Moore II <rkrusty@debian.org>
Architecture: all
Source: meta-kde
Version: 4:2.2.18
Depends: kdelibs3, libarts | libarts-alsa | libarts-bin, libkmid |
libkmid-alsa | libkmid-bin, kdebase | kdebase3, kdebase-audiolibs |
kdebase3-audiolibs, kdebase-libs | kdebase3-libs, libkonq3 | libkonq4,
konqueror | konqueror3, kate | kate3, konsole | konsole3, kdebase-doc |
kdebase3-doc, kscreensaver | kscreensaver3, kdewallpapers | kdewallpapers3,
kuser, ksysv, kcron, kpackage, secpolicy, kghostview, kview, kmail, korn,
korganizer, ark, kab, karm, kcalc, kcharselect, kdepasswd, kdf, kedit, kfind,
khexedit, kjots, knotes, kpm, kpaint, kiconedit, kfract, ksnapshot, kruler,
kdict, kdepim-libs, kdm | x-display-manager, kit, knode, ksirc, koffice,
knewsticker, ktimer, kcoloredit
Suggests: aktion, kde-i18n, kde-games, kde-extras, kde-devel,
anti-aliasing-howto, kdessh, artsbuilder | artsbuilder3, kmix | kmix3,
kscd | kscd3, noatun | noatun3, libarts-mpeglib | libarts3-mpeglib
Filename: pool/main/m/meta-kde/kde_2.2.18_all.deb
Size: 6930
MD5sum: 66e44cbbb570566be78c096ce568df3e
Description: The K Desktop Environment
A metapackage containing dependencies for the core suite of KDE including
kdelibs, kdebase, kdeadmin, kdegraphics, kdemultimedia, kdenetwork, kdepim,
koffice, and kdeutils. Provides Suggests and Recommends for all other
KDE based packages.
.
Does not contain depends for Toys, Games, or Development packages.
Task: desktop
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Now going to ftp://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/
and looking up the metapackage kde,
ftp://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/pool/main/m
we find listed:
meta-kde directory 12/22/01 9:41 pm
And in that direcotory, ftp://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/pool/main/m/meta-kde
we find a bunch of .deb files all dated 12/17/01
So, those files are all old enough to have qualified for the 2 weeks with
no bugs to get into Woody.
Specifically,
ftp://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/pool/main/m/meta-kde/kde_2.2.18_all.deb
is > 2 weeks old, and it itself (ie, not looking at bugs in the
packages this metapackage contains) has at most bugs of level of
'important'.
It takes a bug more severe than 'important' to keep a package out of
Woody, right?
[Can you give me a URL for where the description of what is
required for a package to get from S > W?]
Wrong? Does that mean an ugly font and problems with accented fonts is
keeping this very useful metapackage out of Woody?
If so, that seems an awfully small problem holding up a package with major
benefits to installation efficiency, at least. That is _very_ bad, if
true.
So, what, exaxtly, needs to be done to get the kde metapackage into Woody?
?????
Thanks :)
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