Re: where do NEW packages go?
On Sun, 19 May 2002, Michael Stone wrote:
> > > If the hurd fanatics insist that everything that people are now using
> > > must be thrown out so it can be molded to fit hurd dogma I can pretty
> > > much guarantee that you'll never see "1.", so "2." is fairly irrelevant.
> >
> > If not the Hurd, what if another yet to be developed free os came along?
> > This will happen sometime.
>
> Maybe, maybe not. You're delusional if you think the massive installed
> base is going to be tossed in the next five years.
".. of choice .." implies when there is a feasable choice.
> > > But, the answer to "2." is that requiring massive changes to "handle the
> > > hurd" would mean that Red Hat is no longer Red Hat and Slackware is not
> > > longer Slackware.
> >
> > So if another superior free os came on the scene then these would become
> > extinct like the dinosaur and be replaced by other distributions of os
> > "X".
>
> Yes. When there is something both radically different and uncontestably
> better than existing solutions, the existing solutions will fade away.
> When I'm wandering around the federation starship enterprise, there
> won't be a little redhat holgram floating in the air under the voice
> interface speaker.
Quite right, but you have the time-scale seriously wrong.
> > While I am involved with the Hurd, I do have a great respect for Debian.
> > My concern is that Debian be adaptable enough to accomodate radical
> > changes and not become extinct. The Hurd and the BSDs are doing Debian a
> > service by inviting | challenging | demanding that Debian develop this
> > adaptability.
>
> No, you're doing no service at all by pushing non-technical dogma as if
> it's radical technical change. (Obviously talking about libexec here.)
> Our goal should be maximal userland compatibility between our ports, not
> gratuitous cosmetic changes to suit each subgroup's personal whims. The
> technical challenges facing debian aren't at all the focus of these
> stupid debates that sap our attention from more productive pursuits.
Non technical, yes. Dogma no. libexec no. Common sense based on
observation, yes. Think ten years ahead. More of the same? I doubt it.
What will be different? I can't say. Be a boy scout and "be prepared" -
for change.
Phil.
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