Re: Misclassification of packages; "libs" and "doc" sections
Daniel Burrows wrote:
>
> In case anyone is interested, I'm reposting the suggestion I made two
> years ago. It probably needs tweaking, but it's some more ideas to throw
> into the pot. Probably could be modified to take advantage of the
> proposed multiple inheritance. I think it pretty well illustrates my
> idea that the final hierarchy presented to the user should be fairly narrow,
> if possible.
>
I agree with all of the below. It could be modified and merged with
other proposals. I think a very sound practice here is to work
both top-down and bottom-up. In order to do that, there should be
a graph that all of us can see. Meanwhile let's collect everybody's
categorization suggestions.
I strongly suggest that we also steal and merge the existing hierarchies
from places such as www.dmoz.org, www.yahoo.com, tucows, winfiles,
download.com, etc. We can simply take all of these hierarchies,
generalize and merge their ontologies and prune the irrelevant. While
doing this, we can also start adding packages to specific categories.
Nevertheless, we'd be needing some tools for this. I'll be working
on this subject [As part of a dept. course, too] so expect some output
from me. You might want to look at some of the links I sent in reply
to Thomas Bushnell and some of the previous ones... Basically, I'll
try to write an ontology-development framework. For instance, output
graphs will be visualized with graphviz, and a language will be used
to describe the ontologies. I haven't yet worked out the details yet,
but these are my preliminary ideas.
Comments?
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> I would like to see something like the following (a rough sketch with some
> examples for each category -- more categories should probably be added :) ):
>
> admin/
> config/ <-------- linuxconf, dotfile-*
> debian/ <-------- dpkg, apt, menu
> misc/ <-------- stuff that doesn't categorize well--
> eg, queue
> monitor/ <-------- acct, gtop (maybe, see below)
> network/ <-------- ipchains, etc.
> privileges/ <-------- makepasswd, sudo, secure-su
> security/ <-------- tripwire
> base <--- this is going to be problematic, perhaps it should not present in
> the classification of a package. For example, ppp (as I noted above)
> really belongs in net. On the other hand, many things in 'base' don't
> classify well -- for example, base-files or ldso.
> devel/
> binutils/ <-------- nasm, binutils, bin86
> buildtools/ <-------- make, autoconf
> compilers/ <-------- gcc, pgcc
> debian/ <-------- dpkg-dev, debhelper
> debug/ <-------- gdb, ddd
> interpreters/ <-------- python, perl, guile, ucblogo
>
> editors/
> emacs/ <-------- emacsen
> misc/ <-------- ummm, no candidates offhand :)
> programming/ <-------- Other editors primarily for programmers
> (jed, joe?..I mainly know emacs and vi but
> I see other programmers' editors in my
> package list :) )
> simple/ <-------- editors meant to be fairly simple
> (eg, gxedit)
> vi/ <-------- vi-derived programs
>
> games/
> arcade/ <-------- xpilot, koules
> board/ <-------- xboard
> misc/ <-------- *hack
> puzzle/ <-------- gfpoken, etc
> quake/ <-------- Crazy stuff from id
> tetrisesque/ <-------- *tris
> toys/ <-------- cthuga, synaethesia, xteddy
>
>
> .
> .
> .
> net/
> ftp/ <-------- lftp, gftp, ncftp, ...
> irc/ <-------- irc clients
> mail/ v------------------------ Notice the subnesting
> clients/ <-------- mutt. What else do you need? :)
> lists/ <-------- mailman, berolist
> misc/ <-------- fetchmail
> mtas/ <-------- exim, postfix (maybe name it 'servers')
> messaging/ <-------- ICQ, AIM, Linpopup, and Zephyr
> news/
> clients/ <-------- gnus, inn, whatever else there is
> misc/ <-------- fetchnews?
> servers/ <-------- [ I don't know about servers :) ]
> remote-shell/ <-------- rsh, ssh, and friends (there are some
> other programs in this area I think)
> web/
> browsers/ <-------- netscape, w3
> servers/ <-------- Roxen, apache
> x11/
> base/ <-------- Really core x11 stuff: xauth,
> /etc/X11/Xsession,. Maybe base/x11?
> display-managers/ <-------- gdm, xdm, kdm, wdm
> misc/ <-------- xtartan, xplanet (maybe in games/misc
> or games/toys),
> x2x
> server/ <-------- xserver-*, xvfb
> terminals/ <-------- xterm, Eterm, gnome-terminal
> window-managers/ <-------- wmaker.
>
--
Eray (exa) Ozkural
Comp. Sci. Dept., Bilkent University, Ankara
e-mail: erayo@cs.bilkent.edu.tr
www: http://www.cs.bilkent.edu.tr/~erayo
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