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Re: Woody Progress



On Sun, 3 Dec 2000, Richard Taylor wrote:

> ObDisclaimer: IANADD
> 
> First off, I would like to apologize if this is not the right list to ask 
> this question, and secondly, I would like to apologize if it is not 
> appropriate for a non-developer to ask this question.
> I have been impressed with the progress of woody recently, to the point where 
> I now keep it installed myself, for the fun of experimenting with XF86 4, and 
> what I would like to know is: Does anyone have any theories as to when the 
> code freeze will start. I mean, getting a new realease out, with KDE 2 
> packaged and ready to go, plus XF86 4, would do a lot to restore the Debian
> Project in the eyes of joe-average linux-user.

The problem with this line of thinking, i think, is that debian isn't
aimed toward 'joe-average linux-user' .. It's aimed really towards the
debian developers, and others like them. Debian isn't trying to "restore"
themselves, in anyone's eyes. they are going forward as they feel correct.

The big difference between debian and alll those other distro's (possibly 
slack excluded), is that the debian project will go forward when nobody
gets a paycheck. Debian is (probably) the biggest volunteer software
project in the world. Most linux distributions are in it for the
money....

Just my thoughts.

> *gets into asbestos suit*
> Before you all jump on me, the Debian linux distro has somewhat of a 
> reputation for being behind the times, due to it's long and rigorous testing
> process. Personally, I prefer this, and the extended testing period is one 

I prefer it, too. in fact, I wouldn't give it up. 

> of many reasons Debian is the only linux I use.
> Also, those of us who read the lists understand what the reasons are, and 
> to my mind, they were sound, but up until recently, the `man on the street' 
> still sees us as the last distro to not have KDE.

And it's a true statement. But, IMHO, Kde is crap anyway. ;)

> He doesnt care about ideology, and while right has won out in the end, it 

But we DO care. What does that mean? That debian is NOT for everyone, and
he'll be perfectly happy with another distribution.

> has set our public image back somewhat.
> Had I the power, I would _not_ change any of the decisions that have 
> brought Debian to where it is now, but to my mind, now would be a good 
> time to consider when the new release will come out. 

Nah, potato just stabilized. just BARELY. We don't need to rush out with
this. I wouldn't even expect seeing the release until at least the end of
2001. and that doesn't even seem likely to me.

The thing is, debian is NOT going to throw together a distribution release
and just call it stable. RedHat would. They consider rh7.0 to be a nice,
stable release. Any debian user/developer would SCOFF at that.

> 
> Thank you for your time.
> 
> Richard Taylor 
> 
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