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Re: debian-installer questions (floppy,cd)



Is X not installed because I am using the 'netinst' cd instead of the full cd-sets?


On 5/8/05, Michael <bathat@gmail.com> wrote:
Final question: I've recently completed a base installation and am trying to login.  In previous linux installations I've had to type 'startx' in order to boot to X.  What am I required to type in this case?



On 5/7/05, Michael <bathat@gmail.com> wrote:
I finalized the installation only to reboot and be presented with a blank screen and blinking cursor.

All of my partitions were made 'logical'.

This is the approximate order and exact sizes of the partitons.
/ = 25GB (bootable)
/usr = 30GB
/home = 15GB
/var = 1.5GB
/tmp = 500MB
/boot = 100MB
/swap = 640MB
GRUB?



On 5/7/05, Michael <bathat@gmail.com> wrote:
Nevermind, I simply wrote the partition information to disk after selecting GRUB installation and it installed GRUB.  I was thinking this might be its procedure but was too quick to post.


On 5/7/05, Michael < bathat@gmail.com> wrote:
Update: I have partitioned my drive and successfully installed the base system.  However,  when I go to install the GRUB bootloader I am taken to the partitioner and given no insights into how to install the bootloader.  I have created mount point /boot so maybe I just have to manually configure the bootloader...



On 5/7/05, Michael <bathat@gmail.com> wrote:
Running floppy boot via 'expert' allows me to enter load-time parameters for sata_sil and sis5513 (controller?) but I don't know what parameters I would possibly use.  When I enter nothing I receive the error: "Error while running 'modprobe -v sata_sil'."  In other words, it cannot configure the module, although it does detect it...



On 5/7/05, Michael <bathat@gmail.com> wrote:
I am currently running through the installation using floppies and I deselected the hardware detection of siimage, si* since I know they do not work.  However, they are essential to the installation of Debian.  I have gotten to a point in the past where I am able to see my harddrive so the SATA controller must have been working.

Must I configure the network in order to download the files from a mirror.

Everytime I attempt to downlod the files from a mirror I receive the following error:
The specified archive mirror is either not available, or does not have a valid Release file on it.  Please try a different mirror.

I've tried quite a few mirrors now.  The mirrors have valid Release files on them, I'm sure.  It is not surprising the mirror is not available considering I have no way to connect to the mirror.

Should I be loading net-drivers.img instead of cd-drivers.img?


Thanks
Michael

On 5/7/05, Michael <bathat@gmail.com> wrote:
I'm trying the expert mode now and it still freezes on the following module:
'sata_sil' for 'CMD Technology Inc Silicon Image Serial ATARaid Controller [ CMD/Sil 3112/3112A ]'
<< This is the exact name of the module it freezes on.
It has been stuck at 5% for at least 5 minutes now.
It is entirely possible my SATA controller is not compatible with Debian as of yet.

Thanks
Michael


On 5/7/05, Michael <bathat@gmail.com> wrote:
Let me first say I have quite a few questions/problems regarding both cd and floppy boot using netinst RC3.
 
Floppy boot:
Considering I have been using floppies the vast majority of the time in my journeys: I will first start with them.
When booting from floppies and loading cd-drivers.img I am able to make use of the partitioner and it detects my WD800JD harddrive and, apparently, Koutech PSA150 SATA Controller.  I have just recently bought both these pieces of hardware and the Koutech (I/OFlex) says it supports Linux so I'm assuming it will work fine with Debian (although, looking on the drivers cd I only see drivers for Mandrake, Redhat and UnitedLinux).  However, it seems to detect the controller just fine as far as I know.
 
When it comes to partitioning I can either auto-config or manually partition.  When I auto-config it only sets up / and /swap, which is fine, however, I want to make extra partitions (eg: /boot, /var, /home, /usr, etc).  When manually partitioning I'm able to see options for other partitions but am not sure how to make use of them.  Should I pre-partition using a Windows tool like PartitionMagic8?
 
In addition: I am going to dedicate my whole 80GB harddrive to Linux alone (the 30GB Quantum Fireball hd only has Windows on it).  Do I make the 80GB hd a Primary or Logical partition?  This is the first time I've ever had access to harddrives and, therefore, am not quite sure what to do.  I plan on changing the bios boot parameters to reflect which hd I want to boot from (Debian, Windows).  However, will LILO/GRUB be able to recognize both hd's and allow me to boot accordingly.  If I edit lilo.conf to specify which hd is dedicated to which os, it should, correct?  This would eliminate my use of the bios.
 
Also, how do I download the packages from a specified Debian mirror (HTTP, FTP... whichever).  I don't use proxies so I've been informed I leave the text field empty.  DHCP isn't able to detect my eth0 device automatically.  I manually configured it using IP 198.168.0.1.  However, I don't really need to configure my network since my computer isn't going to be networked.  However, I'm assuming this helps in downloading the packages.  The only way I'd be able to download the packages is by configuring my Motrola cable modem.  Therefore, I plugged the LAN cable into the network card and tried to have debian-installer detect it.  It's supposedly compatible with Linux. 
 
I think this concludes my questions/problems for floppy boot (don't worry, the cd boot is much shorter).
 
CD boot:
When I directly boot from the netinst cd it commences hardware detection and freezes at 5% while trying to detect sata-sil.  At one point during floppy-based installation I received the error: "Error while running 'modprobe -v sata-sil"?  Now, is sata-sil the controller or the harddrive?  I'm thinking it is the controller but am not  absolutely positive.  I've been reading (or rather, skimming) the Installation Guide  recently but have not found many answers to my questions.  I've let the installer try to detect it for 5-10 minutes with no results.
 
Looking at http://www.linuxmafia.com/faq/Hardware/sata.html#siliconimage , this seems to be the hardware is hangs on... Silicon Image 3112 / 3114 (integrated), and 3512 (PCI) (CMD Technology, Inc.).
 
Regarding the problems I'm having with the SATA drive... I have found the following information:
SATA driver can block access to CD drive in installations from CD. On systems having a SATA IDE controller that also has the CD drive connected to it, you may see the installer hanging during hardware detection for the CD drive or failing to read the CD just afterwards. A possible reason is that the SATA driver (ata_piix and maybe others) is blocking access to the CD drive.
You can try to work around this by booting the installer in expert mode and, in the "Detect and mount CD-ROM" step, selecting only the drivers needed for CD support. These are (ide-)generic, ide-cd and isofs.
The drivers needed to access the disk will still be loaded, but at a later stage. By loading the CD drivers before the SATA driver in this way, you may be able to complete the installation. Note that CD-ROM access may still be an issue after rebooting into the installed system. >> http://www.nl.debian.org/devel/debian-installer/errata
This should do the trick.  I will have to give this a try.
 
See if you can change your SATA settings in the BIOS from something like "Native mode" to "Compatibility mode" (might be labeled differently)
However, the first option seems to be the resolution to my problem.
 
I take back what I said about the CD boot section of this email being shorter: I always find interesting information (previously unknown) as I type.
Sorry for the enormity of this message.
Thanks









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