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Re: OldWorld floppy images



Hi Jeremie!

I downloaded the images.

The first thing I noticed was that the root.img was more than
1.440 MB long.

The second thing that I noticed was that "fdformat" and
"superformat" don't work on powerpc hardware, so I can't create a
1.920 MB formatted floppy to put root.img onto.  For example, when
I try to do "fdformat /dev/fd0" I get an error message:
"ioctl(FDFMTBEG): Inappropriate ioctl for device".  So the largest
image I can write to media is 1.440 MB.

I decided to try the boot.img anyway since it was the right size. 
I could at least see if my systems would boot with it.

The third thing I noticed was that the floppy drives hadn't been
used for years (literally) and they were *dirty*.  The blank
floppy disks I had around the house were about the same age, so I
couldn't trust them either.  So I went out and got a drive
cleaning kit and a box of brand-new floppy disks. (I had to go to
three stores before I found one that carried floppy drive cleaning
kits.  Floppy disks are seriously going out of style!)  After a
thorough cleaning...

I was able to write the boot.img and read it back without error. 
The original boot.img and the read-back file compared bit-for-bit,
so I figured I had a good one.

First, I tried it on the machine that wrote it (a beige G3 at 300
MHz).  It succeeded in booting (got a "happy-mac" icon that
changed after a while to an icon of Tux Penguin snuggling up to a
happy-mac.) Of course, when it ejected the boot floppy (presumably
because it wanted the root floppy inserted -- though there was no
indication on the screen that this was the case.  I assume that is
normal?) I had no root floppy to insert.  But I felt good that I'd
gotten that far!

Next I tried it on a different machine (a powermac 6500 at
225MHz).  It got to the point of the Tux-and-Mac icon, but the
drive made grinding noises and it never ejected the disk.  It just
hung.  I believe that the floppy drive on that machine is
terminally old/tired/flakey, even after a couple of thorough
cleanings.  It's not altogether surprising, since in a previous
life, this machine was used (and abused!) by students in a public
computer lab.  I'll try swapping the floppy drive with a known
good one and try again.  Though that may take a couple of days.

So, can we make a root.img file that will fit on a 1.440 MB disk?

Hope this helps!

Rick






Rick Thomas wrote:
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> I'll give that a try.
> 
> Rick
> 
> On Sunday, March 21, 2004, at 06:47 PM, Jeremie Koenig wrote:
> 
> > On Sat, Mar 20, 2004 at 01:06:55PM -0500, Rick Thomas wrote:
> >> OK, I'm willing to give it a try.  Where do I start?
> >
> > You can find some floppy images at
> > http://sprite.fr.eu.org/d-i-oldworld/
> > I haven't tested them at all, so please tell me how it goes !
> >
> > You won't be able to install any bootloader, but IIRC chrooting into
> > /target and running quikconfig works. Maybe you'll also need to do some
> > OpenFirmware configuration to boot into the new system.
> >
> > Good luck !
> >
> > --
> > Jeremie Koenig <sprite@sprite.fr.eu.org>



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