On Fri, May 04, 2018 at 12:24:05AM +0100, Chris Lamb wrote: > Dear Nicholas, > > > the experience I gained while investigating them will make diagnosing > > potential future autopkgtest failures faster > > I trust I'm not hearing any kind of apologetic subtext in your > reply.. If I look think about anything that I might be vain enough > to claim I "know", I usually learnt it when something broke. Or I > broke it. :) David Bremner tells me "the fancy word for that is experiential learning" :p As far as subtext...mm, it wasn't intentional, and my paragraph is kind of unclear, but it's possible there's some unconscious self-promotion or a ":. autopkgtest is good" subtext. I'm optimistic about autopkgtest and DebCI. Here is why: > Anyway, thank you for your kind comments. Do let me know if/when > you have any updates to the package, particularly one that fixes the > FTBFS twice-in-a-row. This was solved in #896998 "python-pip: missing required _vendor module. Broken ${python:Depends}?". Something in the sid's Python ecosystem changed, broke python-pip, which broke Elpy's lisp parsing of "python -m pip --help", which broke various self-tests. I expect Elpy's many self-tests are going to be a simultaneous PITA and indirect QA tool, because the package will function as a kind of canary for Python regressions in sid. I'm sure there are other packages that do this and Elpy's not unique in this way, of course. > This interaction has made me think that a Debian Maintainer > application should be on your TODO as well. Thank you! :-D That means a lot to me. Debian Maintainer since 2016-12-21 ;-) https://nm.debian.org/person/sten Cheers, Nicholas
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