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Resolutions to comments on LSB-FHS-TS_SPEC_V1.0



hi All,
Attached is a file of proposed resolutions. I'd appreciate feedback
on this - a couple of items have no response - for those I would
appreciate any proposals.
best regards
Andrew

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Resolutions to comments received on
the December 11th draft of the
LSB-FHS-TS_SPEC_V1.0
(ftp://ftp.xopen.org/pub/lsb/test)

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@ 0

Various games directories -- may not be appropriate in certain
circumstances.

Reviewer Response:
[Reject- The games directories are specified by the FHS2.0 spec.]

@ 0 , LSB extensions of FHS

The LSB mandates the inclusion of X11R6.

I think it might be better to name all of the as X11 and have a symlink from
X11R6 to X11 in all cases (/usr/X11R6 link to /usr/X11, etc..)

Reviewer Response:
[Reject - Not quite sure what the commenter is referring to]

@ 0 , /proc

What about /proc?

Reviewer Response:
[Reject - /proc is defined and there are tests based on the Linux Allocated
Devices Document]

@ 0  X11

Everything related to X11: X11 should be an optional component.  A
system designed for small footprint (e. g. firewall) may find it
undesirable to have X present on the system.  A system designed for
cluster use may not need X present at all.

Reviewer Response:
[Reject - The LSB team have decided that X11 is mandatory]





@ 3.1-29, /bin/setserial

/bin/setserial: I believe this should be a configuration option.
setserial is normally used during the boot process to set the speed on
a serial port, if it exists.  On a system with no standard serial
ports, this is not useful.  Example: Extreme Linux, which is designed
for clustering.

Reviewer Response:
[Reject - The FHS 2.0 spec requires /sbin/setserial to be available on
all conforming systems]

@ 3.1-37 /bin/csh

/bin/csh: I think an argument can be made that this should be
mandatory.  csh and variants are very widely used.

Reviewer Response:
[Reject - in this respect the LSB is a minimalist specification.
I think that requiring the presence of /bin/sh is sufficient. Users can
lobby for the installation of their favorite shell package on a site by site
basis.  ]

@ 3.2 /boot

/boot: this is a low level system function; it should be
implementation-dependent where the kernel resides.

Reviewer Response:
[Whilst the FHS2.0 specifications states that /boot has to exist,
the kernel is allowed to be in either / or /boot]

@ Section 3.4 /etc, Reference 3.4-12(A)

Problem:

The bootloader configuration file lilo.conf is specific to
the Intel platform, on sparc it is called silo.conf (I believe
Alpha uses milo.conf).

Action:

Either remove the test, or make it either manually configurable
or automatic using arch (or `uname -m`)

Reviewer Reponse:
[This would seem to be a problem in the FHS2.0. We should suggest
a change there and then incorporate this on an architecture basis
as suggested.]

@ 3.4.2-1(A), /etc/opt

Should you also require /usr/opt?

Reviewer Response:
[Reject - the FHS2.0 specification does not define /usr/opt, but instead /opt]



@ 3.6.2 /lib/modules

/lib/modules: this is not useful on a system without a compiler
(which is later listed as an option) that uses a monolithic,
non-modularized kernel, unless the specific intent is to allow
installation of third-party software with precompiled kernel modules.
The current Linux module architecture makes this a dicey proposition,
since a mismatch between kernel version and module version typically
results in a non-loadable module.

Reviewer Response:
[Reject - Your set of criterion for rejection are insufficient.

On many systems, (most notibly toshiba laptops, among others) the hardware
can not boot a bzimage file. Installation programs are always too large
for zImage when a reasonable number of drivers are "built-in".

While delivering pre-compiled kernel modules is admittedly touchy,
delivering the source for inclusion in an existing kernel is not as much
of a problem. If pre-compiled modules are necessary, then it becomes
advisable to deliver a compatible kernel as well.

The location for these modules should be specified.]


@3.6.6 /lib/cpp

/lib/cpp: this should be tied, at most, to the compiler requirement
(or is cpp envisioned for other purposes)?  C compilers are not
required by the C language specification to provide a standalone macro
processor.

Reviewer Response:
[Reject - Debian packages the cpp program separate from gcc, "to provide the
preprocessor for packages that don't need the compiler".

The fvwm package does configuration using cpp.

Netbase suggests cpp.

Regina-dev depends on cpp, as does:
   wmaker and xlib6-dev

While this is not a large list, the dependencies do exist.]

@ 3.7 , /mnt

I think instead of mounting things directly to /mnt, you could mount things
to a subdirectory of /mnt, like /mnt/floppy, /mnt/cdrom, /mnt/tmp,
/mnt/foo, etc...

Reviewer Response:
[Agreed, the FHS2.0 spec is not explicit on the directory contents]

@ /mnt , 3.7-2(B)

Problem:
/mnt is typically used to contain multiple subdirectories where temporary
filesystems may be mounted.  (/mnt/cdrom and /mnt/floppy, for example)
This is more an error in the Filesystem Hierarchy Standard 2.0 then in
LSB-FHS-TS_SPEC_V1.0

Action:
Make clear that subdirectories may exist under /mnt to which temporary
filesystems are mounted.

Reviewer Reponse:
[Accept]

@ 3.8 /opt

Get rid of /opt. It's an abomination to the free *nix world.

Reviewer Response:
[reject - /opt is defined in section 3.8 of the FHS 2.0 specification]

@ 4 /etc

Various services in /etc: many of these should be optional, but if
provided by the system, must be present in /etc.  In particular:

/etc/exports
/etc/ftpusers
/etc/hosts.allow
/etc/hosts.deny
/etc/hosts.equiv
/etc/hosts.lpd
/etc/printcap

Reviewers Response:
[The FHS2.0 specification as written seems to make these mandatory - we
need to get further feedback on this - since it would appear that
some of them are optional, for example /etc/exports need only
exist if exporting filesystems over nfs]


@ 4.2 /usr/X386

/usr/X386 (as distinct from X in general, above): it is my
understanding that this directory has been obsolete for many years (I
believe it was obsolete well before libc5, in which case I think that
this should not be required unless the system supports running a.out
executables, which is not stated).  In this case, I do not believe
that any value is gained from requiring its presence.

Reviewer Response:
[The FHS2.0 mandates this - is it time to drop the requirement?]

@ Section 4.2 /usr/X386, Reference 4.2-1(A)

Problem:

I believe this is specific to the Intel platform.

Action:

Only perform the test on Intel (or compatible platform) by testing
arch or `uname -m`.

Reviewer Reponse:
[This would seem to be a problem in the FHS2.0. We should suggest
a change there and then incorporate this on an architecture basis
as suggested.]

@ 4.2-1(A) , /usr/X386

What is this for?

Reviewer Response:
[Reject - The FHS2.0 specification explicitly states that this directory
exists and is for X11R5 (it may be identical to /usr/X11R6.]


@ 4.5.2 sendmail

/usr/lib/sendmail: choice of MTA should be properly
system-dependent, and this will be of no use on systems using qmail or
the like to process mail.  Better would be to require /bin/mail to
inject mail into the system, I think.

Reviewer Response:
[]

@ 5.7-1(A), /var/mail

Shouldn't this be /var/spool/mail with an optional symlink from /var/mail?

Reviewer Response:
[Reject - The FHS 2.0 explicitly states that the mail directory be /var/mail.]


@ 5.10-1 /var/spool/lpd

/var/spool/lpd: may not be necessary on a system not supporting
printing.  I think this should fall under the category "if printing is
present, this must be here".

Reviewer Response:
[]


@ 5.13 /var/yp

NIS: should be optional (along with /var/yp).  If NIS is to be
present at all, there are issues to consider:

a) What level of support (NIS vs. NIS+).

b) What commands shall be supported (ypbind, ypwhich, ypcat, ypmatch).

Reviewer Response:
[]

@ 5.13 /var/yp


Note: Should presence of NIS be optional?

I think so...

Reviewer Response:
[]


@ 6.1.4 /sbin/lilo

/sbin/lilo (and other lilo machinery) should perhaps be left up to
the system.

Reviewer Response:
[reject - the FHS2.0 spec mandates its presense]

@ 6.1.6-1

/usr/src/linux (should be required only in conjunction with a C
compiler).

Reviewer Response:
[]





@ Section 6.1.4 /sbin, Reference 6.1.4-1(A)

Problem:

The bootloader program lilo is specific to the Intel platform,
on sparc it is called silo (I believe Alpha uses milo).

Action:

Either remove the test, or make it either manually configurable
or automatic using arch (or `uname -m`)


Reviewer Reponse:
[This would seem to be a problem in the FHS2.0. We should suggest
a change there and then incorporate this on an architecture basis
as suggested.]

Draft 18 January 1999

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