Re: [gopher] History and future of "the gopher project"
On 2015-01-11 13:06, Kim Holviala wrote:
> > On 11 Jan 2015, at 12:21, Mateusz Viste <mateusz@viste.fr> wrote:
> >
> > On 01/10/2015 09:16 PM, Jeff W wrote:
> >> Before doing so he moved the gopher project email list over to the Debian
> >> project's mailman-based listserv, hence the current arrangement.
> >
> > About this - why are we all using this mailing list in the first place? There have been a dedicated nntp group for gopher since forever: comp.infosystems.gopher but surprisingly, this mailing list is much more active.
>
> Yes, NNTP is a much better protocol… but getting a feed nowadays is pretty complicated unless you pay for some NNTP service. Pretty much all ISPs have stopped providing that, and free servers went away because of spamming.
>
> I might be mistaken, of course.
I think there is still eternal-september (old motzarella), that filters
binary content and at least used to filter posts from google groups.
Datemas used to be free, but I think that changed for new users. My ISP
has a USENET NNTP server, that actually appears to be fast, but I think
that this is a quite big exception to the rule.
USENET (not NNTP) has had problems with spam and the like, but most of
it can be handled with a killfile.
Even then, I think that the current arrangement is quite good: we have a
mailing list which is also available through NNTP, so people who prefer
NNTP can use that gateway.
--
Nuno Silva
Helsinki, Finland
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