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Re: [gopher] This game I have been working on might be of interest to Gopherites...

Thank you for the great suggestion. I will have the font size updated after work today.

As for the goal, it's more so an "open world sandbox" with multiplayer abilities. Missions will be available in the game to complete. These missions will mimic recent real world hacks, like those on Sony for example. Where you, the player need to infiltrate a company to steal confidential data and deface them. It's for people who would otherwise enjoy the thrill of hacking, but would otherwise not do it as it's illegal in almost every country.

It's like how some 20ish year old would play call of duty, instead of joining the real army. It gives the overall experience, but without the emotional or pain aspects involved.

There won't be some huge story arch(or at least yet that's not in the plan). The game will focus more on the simulation of a network of computers which can be otherwise hacked into by players. There's also a social and community aspect in terms of the in-game chat system, so players can easily meet like minded individuals. In the future there will be missions that would require a group of players to perform.

On February 9, 2015 2:36:07 AM MST, Mateusz Viste <mateusz@viste.fr> wrote:
I am not visually impaired, but I totally agree - reading this 'pseudo 
retro' font is a real pain for me as well.

Other than that, the project seems cool, and even quit advanced
technically. Nice idea!


On 09/02/2015 03:45, James Mills wrote:
Holy hell Kevin you can write!
(PS: I don't enjoy reading looong articles/messages!)

One thing; please pick a better/different front on the Web UI.
(Being visually impaired reading that font it quite hard!)

Not really sure what the "goal of the game" is as such
perhaps you can give a quick run-down of what to expect?

Look forward to BETA codes.


James Mills / prologic

E: prologic@shortcircuit.net.au <mailto:prologic@shortcircuit.net.au>
W: prologic.shortcircuit.net.au <http://prologic.shortcircuit.net.au>

On Mon, Feb 9, 2015 at 11:49 AM, Kevin Veroneau <kevin@veroneau.net
<mailto:kevin@veroneau.net>> wrote:

Hello fellow Gopherlings!

I believe you might have recalled that I brought up and we all
discussed the possible development of a MUD made by us Gopherians.
Well, long
before I even had such an ill conceived idea that would ultimately
never come
into fruition. I was working on a Massively Multiplayer Online Hacking
Universe Game, or shortened to just MMOHUG. You won't find this MMO
type anywhere yet, as I am hoping that mine will be the first to market!
Although I have been w orking on it since 2012, and it has gone through a
couple complete redesigns, I feel that now the game is taking the right
direction. Originally, it was going to be a web-based game, but I
that this market was already crowded and noticed the vast
inferiority of web-
based games in general. In order to build real-time apps and games on a
website, you needed some rather complex code, both in the front-end
and the
back-end... This led me to rewrite the game completely using standard
stdin/stdout terminal programming in Python. This version of the game
actually came along ways until I realized how it wouldn't scale very
You see, each user would log in via a standard telnet connection,
and telnetd
forks the actual application I wrote. For each connected player,
the amount
of resources grow! If I reall y wanted to take the game into the MMO
category, I needed to slim down the server component alot!

Now the server side is entirely written and listens on a TCP port
no forking needed. I wrote a couple threads to manage some in-game
stuff, but
that's about it. The game currently is about 10MB of RAM when idle,
which is
pretty good. Each new connection doesn't increase the total size by
much, as
each player's persistent state doesn't take very much memory or
This also has the benefit of me being able to write a custom telnet
client to
make the game more appealing to those who don't want to use telnet,
or my web-
based terminal app.

Anyways, the point of this message is that, I believe this type
game would appeal to most users o f this mailing list. It's a very
game overall, and mostly fiction, but with some real-world elements
to make it
feel real enough for people who haven't hacked before. By far, it
feels way
more realistic then that crap Ubisoft released last year, what's
what game
called again....

I personally like a hacking type game with a nice barrier between
and reality. This is the type of atmosphere I am building with
Hacker's Edge.
The game feels real, and makes you actually feel like your hacking into
computer systems, but is purely fiction. It uses real-world
elements, like
IPv4, DNS, SMTP, and other popular Internet technologies. Many
commands which
are used by real hackers are also used, but watered down to make it easy
enough to pick up and play without feeling tedious. Most commands
like "nmap"
and "nslookup" require a good amount of research to understand their
options. Hacker's Edge uses such commands, but they aren't as
complex, so the
player doesn't need to enter in a dozen options everytime they want
to map
ports on a remote host.

The game is going into closed beta soon, so that I can get people
to test
out the commands and the general feel of the game to give me their

One of the games highlights will be user created content in the
forms of
real functioning binary applications that run within the game
world. The game
will include a compiler for a somewhat simple to use and understand
that gives players the ability to hook directly into the game's
engine to
create new types of servers and hack ing programs that can be sold to
players using the in-game economy. In my last implementation of the
coding, the dialect was very close to assembly language, while this felt
really realistic, it was too complex to just jump into for most
players. I
first attempted to build a high-level language on top of that, which
into the in-game assembly, but that was too limiting. This new and
version of the game will include a programming dialect that is easy
to use and
understand, yet powerful. Using this, it should be technically
possible to
build in-game Gopher servers and clients. While no in-game apps
will have
access to the real Internet, apps can communicate using the in-game

Anyways, for more information, you can visit the gam e's homepage
in the HTTP
space here: http://www.hackers-edge.com/ If there is enough
interest from the
Gopher community here, I may consider setting up a Gopherhole for
the game as
well, so that all the same information from the HTTP version can be
from Gopher as well. However, you can currently view and post into
the forums
from within the game using the +bboard, +thread, and +reply
commands. Hooks
into the HelpCenter will also be added soon too.

I am planning on distributing Beta invite codes very soon, so do
let me know
if your interested and I will send out a few codes onto this mailing
Each code is a one use code, so take them before somebody else
does. I am
limiting initial access to consider performance and overall se rver load.

Best Regards,
Kevin Veroneau
gopher://gopher.veroneau.net/ <http://gopher.veroneau.net/>
Telnet: veroneau.net:5199 <http://veroneau.net:5199>

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