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[gopher] Re: Gopher server on shared host



Oh, I think a few gigs (5 GB) are fine for me. It doesn't have to be huge.
So yea, recommend me a few, bu I do have a shoe string budget, I want it as
cheap as possible. I do have a domain name for my blog (www.mjnblog.com) but
it is being used... (duh). Thanks!
:D

On Fri, Apr 4, 2008 at 1:48 PM, Brandon Poder <xythonix@gmail.com> wrote:

> Matthew Nawrocki wrote:
> > Actually, I was looking more along the lines of actually which servie I
> > should go to for a good gopher server... and help on setup. :P
> > Matt
> >
> > On Fri, Apr 4, 2008 at 1:10 PM, Brandon Poder <xythonix@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >
> >
> >> Matthew Nawrocki wrote:
> >>
> >>> Hey I could use some advice here.
> >>> Matt
> >>>
> >>> On Fri, Apr 4, 2008 at 10:54 AM, Brandon Poder <xythonix@gmail.com>
> >>>
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >>>
> >>>> John Harris Stevenson wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>> This has been an interesting thread.
> >>>>> DreamHost has just begun to offer a virtual host to complement their
> >>>>> existing shared hosting, which I have been using for several years.
> >>>>>
> >> When
> >>
> >>>> I
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>> asked about running a gopher server the support staff there
> suggested
> >>>>>
> >> I
> >>
> >>>> try
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>> the virtual server, but I think without root I'm not likely to be
> >>>>> successful. I do have a unique IP.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> I'm going to try with PyGopherd, though it will be difficult to test
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>> without
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>> the port binding.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> John
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> On Thu, Apr 3, 2008 at 12:29 PM, Brandon Poder <xythonix@gmail.com>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>>> Cameron Kaiser wrote:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Any recommendations for a Gopher server to run in a shared Linux
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>> hosting
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> environment?
> >>>>>>>> We're on DreamHost PS (http://www.dreamhostps.com/), so can run
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>> processes,
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> but do not have root access. I've looked at some of the gopher
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>> servers
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>>> on
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> offer and a recommendation would be helpful. Thanks!
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> The primary problem you will have is running a process on port 70.
> >>>>>>>
> >> If
> >>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>> your
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>> package allows you to bind port numbers that low through some sort
> >>>>>>>
> >> of
> >>
> >>>>>>> trusted method, and you have your own IP, there should be no
> >>>>>>>
> >> problem.
> >>
> >>>>>>> If you cannot bind port 70, you can still run a server on a high
> >>>>>>>
> >> port
> >>
> >>>>>>> number such as 7070. How you would do this depends on the server
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>> package
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>>>> you use. The primary issue there is that Mozilla is hardcoded to
> >>>>>>>
> >> only
> >>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>> use
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>> port 70, part of the thing that OverbiteFF seeks to change
> (speaking
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>> of
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>>>> which, there will be a new OverbiteFF release later tonight --
> more
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>> shortly).
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> I find it odd that you do not have root access on a shared host.  I
> >>>>>> currently run two separate VPS servers that are remotely hosted via
> >>>>>>
> >> Xen
> >>
> >>>>>> that both allow full root access and all major ports and the
> ability
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>> for
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>>> multiple ip's for an extra dollar per month.  I use VPS Land and
> NDC
> >>>>>> Host both allowing full control over your VPS.  The prices are
> >>>>>> reasonable I actually prefer NDC host over VPS Land but I required
> >>>>>>
> >> two
> >>
> >>>>>> separate servers for Python network development that would allow
> for
> >>>>>> rapid data transmission between the two servers.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Brandon
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>> You would get root along with Cpanel and probably Virtuoso (with a
> >>>> little extra fee) with a VPS as opposed to shared web hosting.  I do
> >>>>
> >> not
> >>
> >>>> know of a provider that does not support it.  If you need any help
> with
> >>>> set up give me a hollar I've done dozens of these.
> >>>>
> >>>> Brandon
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >> Do they offer both Linux and Windows VPS hosting?  I would highly
> >> recommend that if they offer a Linux hosting look at the distro's they
> >> have available and look into what control panels they offer for
> >> starters.  Unless that was not the help you were looking for :)
> >>
> >> Brandon
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> How many gigs of storage do you estimate you will need for all of your
> files and if you are going to have a website in addition running on the
> same server how much do you think you will store on there.  Also how
> much are you willing to spend per month for the service?  I can
> recommend several but some differ in the cost to storage and bandwidth
> requirements.  Once we get you set up with a host I can probably find
> some time to help you get the bits and pieces together of Linux hosting
> by tunneling in.  All of the major hosts offer Ubuntu server which I
> would highly recommend for the new to Linux users as it has a semi
> graphical interface for installing and removing packages using
> "aptitude" or the simple command line "apt-get" as it is Debian based.
>
> Sorry for the slow replies I am doing a hard drive recovery on my Mom's
> HD using Samba service since none of my PC's or servers run Windows :(
>
> But I am on long term disability at the moment from my job due to a
> chronic illness so I can help you get set up in between some other
> projects I have going on and can point you in the direction of some
> great *Nix primers.
>
> Do you already own a domain name?  If not you can get you one or I have
> several that are not in use with some registrar time remaining.
>
> Brandon
>
>
>




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