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Bug#913913: apt-cache policy does not display all (security and updates) APT repos in buster



On Sat, 17 Nov 2018, Julian Andres Klode wrote:

> On Fri, Nov 16, 2018 at 04:26:24PM -0500, Yaroslav Halchenko wrote:
> > and I guess I can demystify right away what is going on (although I
> > didn't try to reconfirm by rebuilding or debugging):

> > https://salsa.debian.org/apt-team/apt/blob/master/apt-private/private-show.cc#L488

> >      if (F.Flagged(pkgCache::Flag::NoPackages))
> >             continue;

> > so no apt entries are displayed if they provide no packages ATM.

> > Although I could see how it is useful generally, for our purpose it is
> > somewhat of a blow, since we are trying to use  apt-cache policy   output
> > to decide what APT sources in general are configured. and since we are
> > rolling back in time to use snapshots, they might have had packages at
> > that point in time, thus we better adjust them as well.

> I don't know if it helps, but you might want to look at apt-get indextargets?

wow -- that is a great to know command to provide structured output, Thanks! in
the future (seems to be not present even in stretch's version of apt 1.0.10.2)
we should use it instead of apt-cache policy for sure BUT unfortunately it
also falls short the same way:

	root@825f262c69cc:/# apt-get update
	Hit:2 http://cdn-fastly.deb.debian.org/debian buster InRelease
	Hit:1 http://security-cdn.debian.org/debian-security buster/updates InRelease
	Hit:3 http://cdn-fastly.deb.debian.org/debian buster-updates InRelease  
	Reading package lists... Done                     

	root@825f262c69cc:/# apt-get indextargets
	MetaKey: main/binary-amd64/Packages
	ShortDesc: Packages
	Description: http://deb.debian.org/debian buster/main amd64 Packages
	URI: http://deb.debian.org/debian/dists/buster/main/binary-amd64/Packages
	Filename: /var/lib/apt/lists/deb.debian.org_debian_dists_buster_main_binary-amd64_Packages.lz4
	Optional: no
	KeepCompressed: yes
	Codename: buster
	Label: Debian
	Origin: Debian
	Suite: testing
	Trusted: yes
	Architecture: amd64
	Base-URI: http://deb.debian.org/debian/dists/buster/
	By-Hash: yes
	Component: main
	CompressionTypes: xz bz2 lzma gz lz4 zst uncompressed
	Created-By: Packages
	DefaultEnabled: yes
	Fallback-Of: 
	Identifier: Packages
	KeepCompressedAs: lz4 zst gz xz bz2 lzma uncompressed
	PDiffs: yes
	Release: buster
	Repo-URI: http://deb.debian.org/debian/
	Site: http://deb.debian.org/debian
	Sourcesentry: /etc/apt/sources.list:1
	Target-Of: deb

I haven't looked in the apt sources yet either the same conditioning  on having
Packages is done.

> > Also documentation has no hint on such a "feature":

> >        policy [pkg...]
> >            policy is meant to help debug issues relating to the preferences file. With no
> >            arguments it will print out the priorities of each source. Otherwise it prints
> >            out detailed information about the priority selection of the named package.

> > so "each source", but not each source is printed out!

> > I wish this "feature" of skipping APT sources without packages was somehow
> > optional/configurable.  Otherwise, at least documentation should mention such
> > feature.

> I don't necessarily see it as skipping sources. I don't think the Packages files
> for these sources exist in the cache (as none are downloaded), hence they won't be
> shown.

yes, they do not exist, but it doesn't mean that the "source" doesn't exist.

> Clearly source is not a particularly helpful term, as it's a bit vague (it's not
> a sources.list entry, after all). I think it should probably say "non-empty Packages
> index" or something.

I think "source" is ok in the description of "apt" command (unless talking
about "source package")  since indeed we have sources.list and
sources.list.d, at least to me its semantic is clear.

-- 
Yaroslav O. Halchenko
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