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Bug#448216: Support 3-letter codes for package description translations in APT (was: Re: Bug#448216: Waiting 2 years ago...)



Hi! First of all: Thanks very much for the answers!

My language (ast) and the English (en_US) are a good examples for the bug :)

You can see the English version of apt-get update:
http://launchpadlibrarian.net/34947585/us_lang_example.png

And you can see the Asturian version of apt-get update:
http://launchpadlibrarian.net/34947533/ast_lang_example.png
In the case of "ast" (Asturian code) it is getting "as" (American Samoa).

Best regards and thanks in advance!




On Sat, Feb 6, 2010 at 3:20 PM, Frans Pop <elendil@planet.nl> wrote:
> (CCing as I'm not sure if you are subscribed to d-i18n)
>
>> This is btw also true for the rest of the patch [0] as all my questions
>> in the LongDesc thread [1] remained unanswered.
>
> I can answer one part of it.
>
> ! And last but not least a question more or less only for the l10n-team:
> ! APT currently includes a (short) list of languages for which it doesn't
> ! download the Translation file with the short but with the long code.
> ! e.g. for an pt_BR local it would download the file Translation-pt_BR
> ! file instead of even trying to download Translation-pt. On the other
> ! hand Translation-files like cs_CZ are never touched - apt only tries to
> ! download the cs file. So what do you think: Should apt try downloading
> ! long and short always OR short only if long is not available? The
> ! problematic here would be (while currently looking at the l18n for
> ! unstable main [0]) that e.g. the very small cs_CZ file would hide the
> ! larger cs file... (btw: Also a suggestion which whitelist should be used
> ! would be good, e.g. i think it is unlikely that we get a de_?? in the
> ! future...)
>
> A correct implementation of l10n support automatically falls back to the
> next best translation. The LANGUAGE environment variable can contain a
> list of languages to fall back to.
>
> For example, Debian Installer sets this as follows by default:
> - for Portuguese: LANGUAGE=pt:pt_BR:en
> - for Brazilian: LANGUAGE=pt_BR:pt:en
> Note that they are defined as fallbacks for eachother!
>
> And for some Scandinavian languages it's even more fun:
> - for Northern Sami: LANGUAGE=se_NO:nb_NO:nb:no_NO:no:nn_NO:nn:da:sv:en
>
> I think, but I'm not sure, that if LANGUAGE is *not* set, an automatic
> fallback from e.g. cs_CZ to cs will happen (and maybe even if it is set).
>
> It looks as if the APT download implementation has wanted to simplify this,
> or has maybe just wanted to limit downloads.
>
> IMO if an 'xx_YY' file is downloaded APT should *always* also download the
> corresponding 'xx' file if it exists.
>
> And I think that it would probably also be good if APT downloaded at least
> the first two or three languages listed in LANGUAGES (again both 'xx_YY'
> and 'xx' files for each). This would ensure that e.g. for Portuguese,
> Brazilian is available as fallback.
>
> English should of course always be downloaded.
>
> Cheers,
> FJP
>
>
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