[Pkg-xfce-devel] Bug#523322: Bug#523322: Bug#523322: Bug#523322:
On 01/09/2010 11:38, Luca Niccoli wrote:
> On 1 September 2010 07:31, Yves-Alexis Perez <corsac at debian.org> wrote
>
>> I'm not using an older version, I'm using a more recent version :)
>>
>> ii gnome-keyring 2.30.3-1 GNOME keyring services (daemon and
>> tools)
>
> I'm using that too. Probably the version of Xfce you're using has the bug fixed
>
>> That's because of the OnlyShowIn line.
>
> I had changed that; it was becaus xfce doesn't check /usr/share/gnome/autostart.
> Copying the modified file in /etc/xdg/autostart made it appear and run
> at login, but gnome-keyring still doesn't work as a SSH agent.
Hmh, yeah. Maybe ?start gnome services? in Xfce should look at that
autostart dir though (but that deserve a different bug).
>
>> Good point. So yes, either it's run as part of Xsession.d stuff (which
>> was not possible, aiui?) or xfce4-session runs it, and do it correctly,
>> for example using your patch.
>
> It used to be possible to start it in Xsession.d, but now it messes up
> the new DBus interface to gnome-keyring (it starts too early I seem to
> remember)
dbus is usually started using 75dbus_dbus-launch. On my system it's
gpg-agent -> dbus-launch -> startxfce4.
It might depend on how you start Xfce (if dbus isn't started when
startxfce4 is run, it will start it itself), but in any case, making
sure gnome-keyring is run *after* 75 should work (and would be cleaner
since it'd work in other DE too).
>
>> And I'm afraid it might break existing systems. For example, I have
>> gnome-keyring installed (and it manages password for stuff like
>> evolution) but I *dont* want to use it as ssh-agent. If I tune
>> xfce4-session to fix g-k-d start, will it force that behavior?
>
> I think the default is for gnome-keyring to be a ssh-agent; this can
> be changed via gconf (setting
> /apps/gnome-keyring/daemon-components/ssh to false).
I *really* don't like that. Gnome-keyring is pulled by way too much
stuff and if it breaks users system, it's *not* good.
> I realise that this is a bit inconvenient; but I'd say that if one
> uses many gnome applications will have to install gconf-editor anyway.
> (I don't like the fact that there isn't a simpler way to configure
> gnome-keyring if you're not using gnome, but this is what upstream has
> chosen and I don't think that relying on a bug in xfce4-session not to
> impose the ssh-agent to people would be a sensisble choice)
Yes, I agree, but before breaking it for ssh-agent (ang gpg-agent as as
ssh-agent) users systems, I'd prefer having more comments from g-k people.
Cheers,
--
Yves-Alexis
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