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[Pkg-xfce-devel] Bug#558308: Bug#558308: Xfce menu doesn't show the Debian menu

On dim., 2009-11-29 at 11:11 +0100, Sandro Tosi wrote:
> On Sat, Nov 28, 2009 at 12:05, Yves-Alexis Perez <corsac at debian.org>
> wrote:
> > On sam., 2009-11-28 at 01:02 +0100, Sandro Tosi wrote:
> >> On Sat, Nov 28, 2009 at 00:48, Yves-Alexis Perez
> <corsac at debian.org>
> >> wrote:
> >> > That's not an Xfce stuff. And to be honest, I don't even know
> what
> >> it
> >> > is. apt-cache search reveals there's a gnome-main-menu package,
> so
> >> maybe
> >> > you try to configure the wrong stuff.
> >>
> >> that's weird... because some of the items on the settings menu
> >> actually configures the Xfce behavior, and I believed the Settings
> >> section was under full control of xfce, without voices coming from
> >> other DE.

Well, the ?Settings? category is intended to be common (well, in fact,
it's intended to not be DE-specific). All Xfce-related settings are in
the Xfce Settings Manager (which you can find in the settings folder)
(here there's even a separator between the Xfce Settings Manager item
and the rest of the settings)

> >
> > That's not possible. It might be back in 4.8.
> Please, please, reintroduce it: from a user perspective, it's a
> regression from 4.4 and it's quite "annoying" since several tools
> still don't ship .desktop files, but only menu, and so are not shown
> in the Xfce menu (and, for a non tech-savvy guy, can prevent to use
> the app baliming "hey, I installed it but I can't find in the menu so
> there must be something wrong").

No, it won't be back. If 4.8 supports the ?merge? attribute, then I'll
try to integrate that, but the Debian menu is inconsistent with pretty
much everything. The right way to do it is the freedesktop way (cross
desktop and cross distro). If the debian menu works, fine, but I don't
want to invest time if it doesn't. If the application doesn't ship
a .desktop file, the correct thing to do is to ask upstream for it, and
have it shipped in the debian package meanwhile.

> if it's possible, also some temporary patch to 4.6 would be really
> welcome.

That's definitely not possible. Menu handling is completely different
between 4.4 and 4.6, and the 4.8 doesn't exist yet, wait for it.

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