Bug#801605: xserver-xorg: X fails to start as normal user
On Tue, Nov 29, 2016 at 03:36:42PM +0100, Julien Cristau wrote:
> On 11/28/2016 09:22 PM, Ricardo Fabian Peliquero wrote:
> > On Mon, Nov 28, 2016 at 05:26:42PM +0100, Julien Cristau wrote:
> >> On 11/28/2016 03:54 PM, Ricardo Fabian Peliquero wrote:
> >>> Last year I suggested adding libpam-systemd as a Recommends in xserver-xorg-core or xinit. That suggestion was applied at that time.
> >>>
> >>> The problem is also solved by installing xserver-xorg-legacy and e.g. configuring /etc/X11/Xwrapper.config like it is shown below for a radeon card. Please, consider adding this package to the Recommends as an alternative to libpam-systemd.
> >>>
> >>> ; cat /etc/X11/Xwrapper.config
> >>> needs_root_rights = yes
> >>>
> >>> My suggestion would be xserver-xorg-core Recommends: libpam-systemd | xserver-xorg-legacy.
> >>>
> >> Nope, we shouldn't be recommending people use the setuid root wrapper, IMO.
> >>
> >
> > I understand (and agree). What about changing libpam-systemd to Suggests rather than Recommends?
> >
> What exactly are you trying to achieve with a change here?
>
> Cheers,
> Julien
It is just a matter of preference. I am trying to maintain a clean minimal environment on this old laptop, while trying to keep all Recommends installed. In aptitude's Recommendation audit, the only packages that I choose not to install are: libpam-systemd (which depends on systemd and at least systemd-shim), dbus (although I have to live with '(EE) dbus-core' on my Xorg.0.log), uuid-runtime and xdg-*.
This scenario is more than enough (for _my_ needs): X11 just for running libreoffice-*, firefox-esr, and qemu. I consider Debian Recommendations as pretty mandatory in order to have a stable system running. That's why I question when I see recommendations that might not be that essential for a particular package functionality.
Again, it is just a matter of choice. I will completely understand if you think in a different manner.
Regards,
Ricardo
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