Bug#674952: xserver-xorg-video-radeon: fails to work properly without -ati
On Tue, May 29, 2012 at 11:45:45PM +0200, Cyril Brulebois wrote:
> > Even then, why this Depends of ati on all 3 drivers ? I can "dpkg -r
> > --force-depends" both mach64 and r128, and ati+radeon does startup
> > without complaining at all. Shouldn't this be downgraded to a
> > Recommends as well ?
>
> This is very fine for you. What about mach64 and r128 users? Then we'll
> get reports from people turning off Recommends. The usual fine line,
> between Depends and Recommends, etc. Depends means being safer.
Well, as users of other video cards, they will be able to select just
the driver for their own card, and not eg. radeon.
> > The current situation just makes some people (eg. me ;) break the
> > dependency link that's the weakest to get rid of useless drivers, with
> > the results described in my original report.
>
> What are you gaining?
> $ for f in $(dpkg -L xserver-xorg-video-r128); do if [ -f $f ]; then ls -lh $f; fi; done|awk '{print $5}'
> 110K
> 5.1K
> 676
> 6.0K
> 117K
> 2.2K
> 27
>
> > If I check the Policy about Depends, "This declares an absolute
> > dependency", which is clearly not the case here. Even the official
> > definition of Recommends makes me wonder if it would not be too
> > strong. After all, someone with a radeon is likely to select the
> > readon driver, then the ati wrapper will be selected as Recommended,
> > but the latter should IMHO have no reason to pull mach64 and r128,
> > that would not fit the "packages that would be found together with
> > this one in all but unusual installations" criteria.
>
> The current situation ensures that X works by default. People can still
> select this or that driver manually as explained previously, so it looks
> to me like the current relationships are fine (and have been for I think
> many years).
At least downgrading to Recommends would keep things working by
default. And even downgrading to Suggests, together with -all
depending on {radeon,r128,mach64}, would keep things working by
default - while allowing those who don't want extra stuff to avoid
cruft.
> Besides that, patches welcome: debcheckout xserver-xorg-video-ati
> (mailto: 674952@bugs.debian.org, plus debian-x@ if you want to make sure)
OK :)
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