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Bug#484076: marked as done (upgrade-reports: Two Greek Polytonic diacritics no longer available)



Your message dated Tue, 3 Jun 2008 11:48:03 +0200
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and subject line Re: Bug#436923: psili/dasia problem (Aarghhh!)
has caused the Debian Bug report #436923,
regarding upgrade-reports: Two Greek Polytonic diacritics no longer available
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-- System Information:
Debian Release: 4.0
  APT prefers oldstable
  APT policy: (500, 'oldstable'), (500, 'stable')
Architecture: i386 (i686)
Shell:  /bin/sh linked to /bin/bash
Kernel: Linux 2.6.18-6-686
Locale: LANG=en_US.UTF-8, LC_CTYPE=en_US.UTF-8 (charmap=UTF-8)

Polytonic Greek works in Etch by copying the Greek Compose file into the 
US Compose file (sudo cp /usr/share/X11/locale/el_GR.UTF-8/Compose 
/usr/share/X11/locale/en_US.UTF-8/Compose) and adding (for GNOME) the 
line <GTK_IM_MODULE=xim> to the /etc/environment file. For KDE the 
coppying of the Compose file is enough.
Following upgrade to Lenny, the workaround is no longer able to produce 
on screen the Psili <᾿> and Dasseia <῾> diacritics, while it keeps 
functioning correcτly for Oxeia <΄>, Bareia <`>, Perispomeni <῀>, 
Hypogegrammeni <ͺ> and Diairessis <¨> and their various combinations.



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forcemerge 436923 484062
kthxbye

On Tue, Oct  9, 2007 at 15:38:32 +0200, Jan Willem Stumpel wrote:

> Brice Goglin wrote:
> 
> > I have forwarded this bug on the upstream bugzilla at the URL
> > above. Feel free to add any comments there if you think it
> > could help. I know nothing about Greek accents and I don't have
> > a Greek polytonic keyboard, so I won't be able to help much :)
> 
> At the moment in Sid, Greek breathing signs *again* do not work.
> 
> 1- First some Greek developers called the breathing signs
>    (falsely) "dead_horn" and "dead_ogonek" -- this was an ugly
>    hack (and acknowledged as such by said developers) which worked
>    fine for Greeks, but for nobody else on the planet (i.e. not
>    for anyone working in a non-Greek locale).
> 
> 2- Then "dead_horn" and "dead_ogonek" (which are entirely
>    non-Greek keysyms, just borrowed by said Greek developers for
>    the occasion) were replaced by U0313 and U0314 respectively. We
>    enjoyed a short period in which Greek breathing signs could
>    actually be typed by anyone in the whole wide world.
> 
> 3- Then somebody thought it was a bright idea to again change the
>    definitions of the breathing signs. In the Compose file U0313
>    was changed into U10000313. What could the poor user do? Make
>    the same change in /usr/share/X11/xkb/symbols/gr, of course.
>    Debian did not do it, so the user had to do it by hand.
> 
> 4- But in the latest Sid, the Compose file has reverted to
>    definitions like U0313, while /usr/share/X11/xkb/symbols/gr has
>    reverted to the use of "dead_horn" and "dead_ogonek". So we are
>    literally back to #1. Sigh..
> 
> TIMETE DANAOS ET DONA FERENTES!
> 
> When will we ever get a stable system for entering the Greek
> breathing signs? It is not rocket science. It only requires that
> the people maintaining the keyboard files agree with the people
> maintaining the Compose file. I suspect that there are two
> different groups of Greeks working on those files, independently
> of one another. This has to stop. Somebody has to knock some heads
> together.
> 
It seems that the Compose file was fixed upstream in libX11 1.1.4.  Can
you install the libx11-data package from experimental to verify?  I hope
to be able to upload an updated version to sid in the near future.

Cheers,
Julien


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