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Bug#362894: x11-common: font system completely f***ed up: fixed font not found



Hi Daniel, hi all!

On Son, 16 Apr 2006, Daniel Stone wrote:
> > - X cannot find the fixed font anymore:
> >   The fixed enty in fonts.alias in /usr/share/fonts/X11/misc is not 
> >   included in the fonts.dir file
[..]
> 
> When it gives you that message, it does actually mean it ...

But the font is there, it is a problem about not being listed in the
fonts.dir file.

> This is the recommended way to update it:
> update-fonts-alias misc
> update-fonts-dir misc
> update-fonts-scale misc

This regenerates the fonts in 
	/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/misc
but not in 
	/usr/share/fonts/X11/misc
But the font definition for fixed is in the later one. The problem is
the missing transition of the font pathes.

> > Forthermore, please include documentation, write up some transition
> > document, it is NOT up to the user to find out everything by themselves.
> 
> This will be done, but in the meantime -- if you are unable to cope with
> such transitions, unstable is probably not for you.

Come on. We are all developing packages, and as far as I remember we
shoult try to NOT upload packages RC bugs, not even to unstable. Ok, it
happens, but AFAIS there has not been enough testing with this
transition. 

And yes, I can cope with it. But eg
- who/what tells me what
	update-fonts-alias misc
	update-fonts-dir misc
  does? Which *ACTUAL* path it is working on???? I would have expected
  that it is /usr/share/X11/fonts/misc, at least after the email which
  was going round about fixing font packages (I got two) and moving
  the fonts to /usr/share/fonts/X11. So I would have expected that
  fonts in /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts are NOT found/NOT used, but it is
  the other way round!
- I can fix everything by hand, but this is not the way I want to have
  it as I have to test my own font package transitions, and it would
  be nice to know that the system I am running is not running out of
  pure coincidence and hand fixed!

> It mostly works for everyone, but in such an enormous transition (a
> ~60MB source package transitioning to something like 200 source
> packages, as well as moving out of a directory hierachy that Debian has
> known since its inception), you have to expect that the road will be a
> little bumpy.  Yes, it's getting fixed, but these changes have been in

Ovious, it is not that I didn't expect problems. It is more the lack of
any explanation/list of problems to be expected.

> Ubuntu and in experimental[0] for quite some time with the opportunity
> to test same, and the bugs reported there were ironed out.

This is strange. Such a simple bug as "fixed not found" must have
surfaced. You cannot tell me that the simple thing like font pathes are
wrong has not occured in testing phase.


> If you're running unstable, you're going to need to have a little
> patience with the process.  That's just the way it goes, I'm afraid.

No problem with this, but don't expect me to shut up, I still will file
bug reports, and try to help them, if you tell me what I should test.

Best wishes, and although it might sound strange after this email,
thanks a lot for your work. I know that is a hell of work, and the XSF
does a very good job.

Norbert

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