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Bug#362253: Neither discover1, laptop-detect, mdetect nor xresprobe are needed



Marc Wilson <msw@cox.net> writes:
> On Thu, Apr 13, 2006 at 04:43:20PM -0700, Russ Allbery wrote:

>> Well, I do.  Depends is also used for package configuration.  If the
>> package can't configure itself without those packages, Depends is
>> appropriate.

> The problem with discover, IMHO, is that once it gets installed, it's
> not going to be just called upon as part of producing a working X
> configuration.  It's going to screw things up every time the machine
> reboots, since it has an init script.

> Or it used to.  CD-ROMs that come and go randomly, interfaces that get
> renamed for no apparent reason, etc.

> OTOT, I have to admit that none of Debian's auto-detection tools save
> for hotplug (and now udev) have been allowed on any box I control in a
> very long time, so perhaps that's changed.  Certainly udev has the same
> or similar set of problems.

Well, I run discover on all my systems as a matter of course, so I suppose
I'm not the most sympathetic of audiences.  I've not had those problems
with it.

However...

> If it were a dependency of a meta-package, at least you could remove it
> and only lose the meta-package.  But xserver-xorg *depends* on it now,
> rather than just recommending it, so you're stuck with it.

...it sounds like your primary objection is to the boottime behavior, not
to the use for X configuration.  I do still see the case for changing from
Depends to Recommends provided that the X configuration sequence supports
it, but for your main complaint, can't you just disable the init script?

-- 
Russ Allbery (rra@debian.org)               <http://www.eyrie.org/~eagle/>



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