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Bug#324104: marked as done (please split off non-essenstial stuff from xlibs-data to a separate package)



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Subject: please split off non-essenstial stuff from xlibs-data to a separate package
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Package: xlibs-data
Version: 6.8.2.dfsg.1-5
Severity: wishlist

xlibs-data contains some things which are essenstial for running most X
programs, while other things in it tka up a lot of space, and are rarely
used. The package takes up almost 7.5 MB of disk space, out of which
4 MB are cursors in /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/icons/ (only two or three default
cursors should be in the main package, the rest in xlibs-data-extra for
example), and half a meg of stuff in /usr/X11R6/include/X11/bitmaps/ and
/usr/X11R6/include/X11/bitmaps/ which I don't think I ever use, while I
use X (I use the ion3 window manager). 

libx11-6 package (which I need because GTK+ depends on it) desription
states: "libx11-6 depends on xlibs-data for locale data and the X error
and keysym databases", and these are almost the only things I need from
xlibs-data (+ two or three default cursors). So please leave only that
in xlibs-data, which will make it's installed size about 40% of it's
current installed size, and move the rest to a new package, for example
xlibs-data-extra. 

Please don't tell me that 4 MB is "nothing" in the era of 200 GB hard
drives - people want tu use flash disks as the only filesystem also in
desktop computers, not just embedded (just because of their silentness,
nothing else), and/or put a copy of the whole filesystem in RAM for
speed, and then such a waste of diskpace matters. 

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From: Daniel Stone <daniel@fooishbar.org>
To: Miernik <miernik@ffii.org>, 324104-done@bugs.debian.org
Subject: Re: Bug#324104: please split off non-essenstial stuff from xlibs-data to a separate package
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On Sat, Aug 20, 2005 at 10:49:18AM +0200, Miernik wrote:
> xlibs-data contains some things which are essenstial for running most X
> programs, while other things in it tka up a lot of space, and are rarely
> used. The package takes up almost 7.5 MB of disk space, out of which
> 4 MB are cursors in /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/icons/ (only two or three default
> cursors should be in the main package, the rest in xlibs-data-extra for
> example), and half a meg of stuff in /usr/X11R6/include/X11/bitmaps/ and
> /usr/X11R6/include/X11/bitmaps/ which I don't think I ever use, while I
> use X (I use the ion3 window manager). 
> 
> libx11-6 package (which I need because GTK+ depends on it) desription
> states: "libx11-6 depends on xlibs-data for locale data and the X error
> and keysym databases", and these are almost the only things I need from
> xlibs-data (+ two or three default cursors). So please leave only that
> in xlibs-data, which will make it's installed size about 40% of it's
> current installed size, and move the rest to a new package, for example
> xlibs-data-extra. 
> 
> Please don't tell me that 4 MB is "nothing" in the era of 200 GB hard
> drives - people want tu use flash disks as the only filesystem also in
> desktop computers, not just embedded (just because of their silentness,
> nothing else), and/or put a copy of the whole filesystem in RAM for
> speed, and then such a waste of diskpace matters. 

If you care about that, then use either KDrive (without XKB/DRI/etc,
naturally), the modular libX11 that lets you disable XKB and XCMS
(which, IIRC, is about 1MB or more), and basically everything that
isn't the standard X.Org distribution, much less the Debian packages
thereof.

Closing this bug because I don't think there's any merit in it, sorry.



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