Bug#230243: marked as done (xbase-clients: startx -- :0 uses too large UI fonts)
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From: David Liontooth <liontooth@cogweb.net>
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Subject: xbase-clients: startx -- :0 uses too large UI fonts
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Package: xbase-clients
Version: 4.3.0-0pre1v5
Severity: normal
When I start X11 using a simple startx, I get the right size fonts, corresponding to
what is defined in Fonts in the KDE control center, or in Mozilla's defaults.
When I start X11 using startx -- :0, I get fonts that are about 6 steps too large. So
to get the fonts to look right, I have to decrease the font size in the KDE Control
Center from, say, 12 to 6.
GUI fonts in all applications are too large -- the splash screen, mozilla, KDE.
It doesn't matter which x-server number you tell startx to start. For instance,
startx -- :3 does the same. User also doesn't matter.
-- System Information:
Debian Release: testing/unstable
Architecture: i386
Linux sigillo 2.6.0-test11 #1 Mon Dec 29 19:27:55 PST 2003 i686 GNU/Linux
Locale: LANG=C, LC_CTYPE=C
Versions of packages xbase-clients depends on:
ii cpp-3.2 1:3.2.3-9 The GNU C preprocessor
ii libc6 2.3.2.ds1-10 GNU C Library: Shared libraries an
ii libdps1 4.3.0-0pre1v5 Display PostScript (DPS) client li
ii libexpat1 1.95.6-6 XML parsing C library - runtime li
ii libfontconfig1 2.2.1-13 generic font configuration library
ii libfreetype6 2.1.7-1 FreeType 2 font engine, shared lib
ii libice6 4.3.0-0pre1v5 Inter-Client Exchange library
ii libncurses5 5.3.20030719-4 Shared libraries for terminal hand
ii libpng12-0 1.2.5.0-4 PNG library - runtime
ii libsm6 4.3.0-0pre1v5 X Window System Session Management
ii libstdc++5 1:3.3.3-0pre1 The GNU Standard C++ Library v3
ii libxaw7 4.3.0-0pre1v5 X Athena widget set library
ii libxcursor1 1.0.2-4 X Cursor management library
ii libxext6 4.3.0-0pre1v5 X Window System miscellaneous exte
ii libxft2 2.1.2-5 FreeType-based font drawing librar
ii libxi6 4.3.0-0pre1v5 X Window System Input extension li
ii libxmu6 4.3.0-0pre1v5 X Window System miscellaneous util
ii libxmuu1 4.3.0-0pre1v5 lightweight X Window System miscel
ii libxpm4 4.3.0-0pre1v5 X pixmap library
ii libxrandr2 4.3.0-0pre1v5 X Window System Resize, Rotate and
ii libxrender1 0.8.3-5 X Rendering Extension client libra
ii libxt6 4.3.0-0pre1v5 X Toolkit Intrinsics
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From: Branden Robinson <branden@debian.org>
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Subject: Re: Bug#230243: xbase-clients: startx -- :0 uses too large UI fonts
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On Fri, Jan 30, 2004 at 12:38:26PM -0800, David Liontooth wrote:
> Branden Robinson wrote:
> >When you pass arguments to the X server via startx, you are overriding
> >the default arguments sent to the X server by xinitrc.
> >
> >The startx(1x) and xinit(1x) manpages have more on this.
> >
> >Try these two command lines:
> >
> >startx -- :0 -dpi 75
> >
> >startx -- :0 -dpi 100
> >
> >Which looks more correct?
> >
> Great! This fully resolves my problem and I suggest the bug report be=20
> closed as incorrect.
Okay. Closing this report with this message.
> I understand from man startx that the content of .xinitrc could be=20
> placed in .xsession -- is this relevant to passing arguments to the X=20
> server via startx?
Not really. Note that that bit about putting .xintirc stuff in
=2Exsession instead applies only (as far as I know) to Debian systems,
where I have set things up such that the user's environment strives to
be identical whether xdm or startx/xinit is used.
> Or put differently, is there a way to pass argument to the X server
> via startx that retains the default arguments sent to the X server by
> xinitrc, with the exception of the argument you pass via startx?
No. This wouldn't be impossible, but it is a feature that would have to
be implemented. It would also need some consideration, as in general
people are pretty used to the semantics of xinit and startx that are
described in their manpages.
> That is to say, it would be useful if default values remain in force=20
> unless they are explicitly overridden.
I agree, and it would have been nice if xinit had been written that way
=66rom the beginning. Unfortunately, it has 15 years of inertia or so.
> The process of starting the X server is byzantine and may need to be,
It probably needs to be somewhat Byzantine, but I won't attempt to
defend the proposition that it is no *more* Byzantine than it needs to
be. :)
> but if anything can be done to provide a better user interface that
> would be a big win. The power of the X server is one of the triumphs
> of free software, and it's surely underused.
That's one reason this package is fun to work on. Sometimes, anyway.
If you continue to feel that xinit should be rewritten, please file a
wishlist-severity bug with the Debian BTS.
Thank you for your report.
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G. Branden Robinson | "To be is to do" -- Plato
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