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                       Debian Bug report logs - #214475
      konqueror: Folders get selected for moving automatically by mistake

   Package: xlibs; Reported by: Dominique Devriese <devriese@kde.org>;
   Date: Tue, 7 Oct 2003 00:18:01 UTC;
   Maintainer for xlibs is Branden Robinson <branden@debian.org>; Source
   for xlibs is xfree86.

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   Report forwarded to debian-bugs-dist@lists.debian.org, Christopher L
   Cheney <ccheney@debian.org>:
   Bug#214475; Package konqueror. Full text available.
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Subject: konqueror: Folders get selected for moving automatically by mistake
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Package: konqueror
Version: 4:3.1.3-1
Severity: grave

I am reporting this as a serious bug because it has the potential to affect a u
ser's data.

When using Konqueror in file management profile, and there is a directory with
one directory below it, sometimes when either of the directories is selected wi
th the cursor and the cursor is moved away Konqueror tries to automatically dra
g the folder.  This does not happen with regularity.  Sometimes the folder will
 automatically be dragged and sometimes it will not.

I have changed the settings in Control Center for Mouse to use Double-click or
Single click and this has no effect on the problem.  I have also tried checking
 and unchecking the "Change cursor over links" setting under Web Brwoser -> Beh
avior and this has no effect.  I have also tried a variety of settings values f
or "Double click interval" and "Drag start time" under Mouse and these also hav
e no effect.

I have seen the "Quick Copy and Move" in the Control Center under "File Browsin
g" and wonder whether this might have something to do with the problem.  Howeve
r, it is not possible to disable this feature.

Another, smaller bug which may be related to this is that when under Mouse "Dou
ble click" is chosen and under Web Browser "Change cursor over links" is chosen
, the cursor does not change.  It will only change if "Single click" is chosen
under Mouse.  This only happens in Konqueror.  The cursor will still change hov
ering over taskbar application buttons regardless of "Double click" or "Single
click" setting.


-- System Information
Debian Release: testing/unstable
Kernel Version: Linux think 2.4.20-ck7-4 #1 Tue Jun 10 15:27:21 PDT 2003 i686 G
NU/Linux

Versions of the packages konqueror depends on:
hi  libstdc++5     3.3.2-0pre1    The GNU Standard C++ Library v3
ii  kate           3.1.3-1        KDE Advanced Text Editor
ii  kcontrol       3.1.3-1        KDE Control Center
ii  kdelibs4       3.1.4-1        KDE core libraries
ii  kfind          3.1.3-1        KDE File Find Utility
ii  libart-2.0-2   2.3.14-1       Library of functions for 2D graphics - runti
ii  libc6          2.3.2-3        GNU C Library: Shared libraries and Timezone
ii  libfam0c102    2.6.10-1       client library to control the FAM daemon
ii  libgcc1        3.3.2-0pre1    GCC support library
ii  libjpeg62      6b-8           The Independent JPEG Group's JPEG runtime li
ii  libkonq4       3.1.3-1        Core libraries for KDE's file manager
ii  libpcre3       4.3-3          Philip Hazel's Perl 5 Compatible Regular Exp
ii  libpng12-0     1.2.5.0-4      PNG library - runtime
ii  libqt3c102-mt  3.2.1-5        Qt GUI Library (Threaded runtime version)
ii  libxrender1    0.8.2-1        X Rendering Extension client library
ii  xlibs          4.3.0-0pre1v1  X Window System client libraries
ii  zlib1g         1.1.4-14       compression library - runtime

--- Begin /etc/kde3/konqsidebartng.rc (modified conffile)
Config file not present or no permissions for access

--- End /etc/kde3/konqsidebartng.rc

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tags 214475 + unreproducible
severity 214475 important
stop

BTW - You need to enable line wrapping at char 72 so that the bug
reports are legible especially in Debian BTS.

On Mon, Oct 06, 2003 at 07:03:19PM -0500, daniel wrote:
> Package: konqueror
> Version: 4:3.1.3-1
> Severity: grave
>
> I am reporting this as a serious bug because it has the potential to
> affect a user's data.

You are, then why is it marked as grave right above where you say you
are reporting it as serious... ;)

> When using Konqueror in file management profile, and there is a
> directory with one directory below it, sometimes when either of the
> directories is selected with the cursor and the cursor is moved away
> Konqueror tries to automatically drag the folder.  This does not
> happen with regularity.  Sometimes the folder will automatically be
> dragged and sometimes it will not.

Have you actually ever seen this happen, I can't manage to reproduce
this even after trying to for quite a while... Do you mean by cursor
the mouse cursor or just the selected item cursor, eg alt-tab would
change it to the next running app. If you mean mouse cursor it may be
that your mouse is faulty and not releasing the mouse click like it
should. I tried using alt-tab and moving my mouse cursor both and
never could reproduce it.

> I have changed the settings in Control Center for Mouse to use
> Double-click or Single click and this has no effect on the problem.
> I have also tried checking and unchecking the "Change cursor over
> links" setting under Web Brwoser -> Behavior and this has no effect.
> I have also tried a variety of settings values for "Double click
> interval" and "Drag start time" under Mouse and these also have no
> effect.

As far as I know the only way it should be thinking you are dragging
it is if you mouse button is held down, so changing the click setting
shouldn't make a difference.

> I have seen the "Quick Copy and Move" in the Control Center under
> "File Browsing" and wonder whether this might have something to do
> with the problem.  However, it is not possible to disable this
> feature.

I don't think this has anything to do with it.

> Another, smaller bug which may be related to this is that when under
> Mouse "Double click" is chosen and under Web Browser "Change cursor
> over links" is chosen, the cursor does not change.  It will only
> change if "Single click" is chosen under Mouse.  This only happens
> in Konqueror.  The cursor will still change hovering over taskbar
> application buttons regardless of "Double click" or "Single click"
> setting.

I'm not certain that "Change cursor over links" is actually supposed to
have an effect on konq when not in web mode.  However, if you wish you
can file an upstream bug about that at bugs.kde.org. An easy way to do
this is by clicking Help->Report Bug in the app you wish to report the
bug, in this case Konqueror.


Chris

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Package: konqueror
Version: 4:3.1.3-1
Severity: normal
Followup-For: Bug #214475


I have exactly the same problem described in bug #214475.
If there's anything I can do to help, please tell me.

About this remark:

>If you mean mouse cursor it may be that your mouse is faulty
>and not releasing the mouse click like it should.

I do have a cheap mouse, but I don't see this behaviour anywhere else in
my system.

Regards.


-- System Information:
Debian Release: testing/unstable
Architecture: i386
Kernel: Linux millennium 2.4.21-4-k7 #1 Sun Aug 3 02:34:06 EST 2003 i686
Locale: LANG=es_UY, LC_CTYPE=es_UY

Versions of packages konqueror depends on:
ii  kate                       4:3.1.3-1     KDE Advanced Text Editor
ii  kcontrol                   4:3.1.3-1     KDE Control Center
ii  kdelibs4                   4:3.1.4-1     KDE core libraries
ii  kfind                      4:3.1.3-1     KDE File Find Utility
ii  libart-2.0-2               2.3.16-1      Library of functions for 2D
graphi
ii  libc6                      2.3.2-8       GNU C Library: Shared
libraries an
ii  libfam0c102                2.6.10-1.1    client library to control the
FAM
ii  libgcc1                    1:3.3.2-0pre4 GCC support library
ii  libjpeg62                  6b-8          The Independent JPEG Group's
JPEG
ii  libkonq4                   4:3.1.3-1     Core libraries for KDE's file
mana
ii  libpcre3                   4.3-3         Philip Hazel's Perl 5
Compatible R
ii  libpng12-0                 1.2.5.0-4     PNG library - runtime
ii  libqt3c102-mt              3:3.2.1-5     Qt GUI Library (Threaded
runtime v
ii  libstdc++5                 1:3.3.2-0pre4 The GNU Standard C++ Library
v3
ii  libxrender1                0.8.2-1       X Rendering Extension client
libra
ii  xlibs                      4.2.1-11      X Window System client
libraries
ii  zlib1g                     1:1.1.4-15    compression library - runtime

-- no debconf information


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On Wed, Oct 08, 2003 at 02:14:53AM -0300, carlos wrote:
> Package: konqueror
> Version: 4:3.1.3-1
> Severity: normal
> Followup-For: Bug #214475
>
>
> I have exactly the same problem described in bug #214475.
> If there's anything I can do to help, please tell me.
>
> About this remark:
>
> >If you mean mouse cursor it may be that your mouse is faulty
> >and not releasing the mouse click like it should.
>
> I do have a cheap mouse, but I don't see this behaviour anywhere else in
> my system.

How do items get picked up? What are you doing exactly when it happens?
I have yet to see any even begin to drag on their own on my system.

Chris

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El Mié 08 Oct 2003 05:37, escribió:
> How do items get picked up? What are you doing exactly when it happens?
> I have yet to see any even begin to drag on their own on my system.
>
> Chris

In my system is almost systematic, well let's go step by step:

1- Selecting a directory on konqueror with one click.
2- After releasing the mouse click, moving the mouse into any direction.
3- See that the directory got draged and you have to ESC or choose "cancel"
to not actually drag it.

If it doesn't happend repeat, I got this behaviour sometimes every 3 clicks
sometimes every 5.

If there's anything else I can do please don't hesitate.

Regards.

PD: This thread should only go to "214475-submitter@bugs.debian.org" right?


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On Wed, Oct 08, 2003 at 02:43:36PM -0300, Carlos Echavarria wrote:
> El Mié 08 Oct 2003 05:37, escribió:
> > How do items get picked up? What are you doing exactly when it happens?
> > I have yet to see any even begin to drag on their own on my system.
> >
> > Chris
>
> In my system is almost systematic, well let's go step by step:
>
> 1- Selecting a directory on konqueror with one click.
> 2- After releasing the mouse click, moving the mouse into any direction.
> 3- See that the directory got draged and you have to ESC or choose "cancel"
> to not actually drag it.
>
> If it doesn't happend repeat, I got this behaviour sometimes every 3 clicks
> sometimes every 5.

I tried about 40 times and never got a directory to move. :(

> PD: This thread should only go to "214475-submitter@bugs.debian.org" right?

Yes


Chris

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El Mié 08 Oct 2003 15:30, escribió:
> > In my system is almost systematic, well let's go step by step:
> >
> > 1- Selecting a directory on konqueror with one click.
> > 2- After releasing the mouse click, moving the mouse into any
> > direction. 3- See that the directory got draged and you have to ESC or
> > choose "cancel" to not actually drag it.
> >
> > If it doesn't happend repeat, I got this behaviour sometimes every 3
> > clicks sometimes every 5.
>
> I tried about 40 times and never got a directory to move. :(

I'am not far from reproducing my configuration on a machine next to me, I
only have to find the article that explained how to reproduce my exact
configuration there, I'am thinking that when that happend it will help to
determine if it's some problem with my mouse like you suggested to the
other guy.

Do you have any other idea?

Regards.


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>Do you have any other idea?
Do you have a different mouse? If so, have you tried to reproduce this bug
with that?

Konrad D.


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Package: konqueror
Version: 4:3.1.3-1
Severity: normal
Followup-For: Bug #214475

Hi Chris,

I've noticed this on my system over the past few weeks too, and have
done some investigation.  It seems to me that the directory view in the
konq sidebar is loosing the mouse up event, and therefore thinks it saw
the start of a drag operation.

Extra notes on how to reproduce:

 - Only happens in the home directory sidebar
   -> Press F9 to display sidebar
   -> Click on the home directory or root directory icon

 - Depends on the speed of the mouse click
   -> Press and release the mouse button on a directory entry as quickly
      as you can.  I can not reproduce if my press-release cycle is slow.
   ... so here is a workaround: press and release the mouse button
      slowly.

  - I can reproduce on two fairly different systems.  These are both
    running konqueror unstable, but have several differences that do not
    have any effect:
     - One has a single display, one uses a dual screen Xinerama setup
     - One is SMP, the other single processor
     - One is 750Mhz, the other 1Ghz
     - One has X 4.3 (experimental), the other X 4.2 (unstable)
  - Also, the problem persists regardless of whether konq is on the
    local display or remote via ssh + X forwarding.

Hope that helps to reproduce the problem,
Chris

-- System Information:
Debian Release: testing/unstable
Architecture: i386
Kernel: Linux scooby.cmt 2.4.22-1-686-smp #1 SMP Sat Sep 6 00:06:59 EST 2003 i6
86
Locale: LANG=en_GB, LC_CTYPE=en_GB

Versions of packages konqueror depends on:
ii  kate                       4:3.1.3-1     KDE Advanced Text Editor
ii  kcontrol                   4:3.1.3-1     KDE Control Center
ii  kdelibs4                   4:3.1.4-2     KDE core libraries
ii  kfind                      4:3.1.3-1     KDE File Find Utility
ii  libart-2.0-2               2.3.16-1      Library of functions for 2D graphi
ii  libc6                      2.3.2-8       GNU C Library: Shared libraries an
ii  libfam0c102                2.6.10-4      client library to control the FAM
ii  libgcc1                    1:3.3.2-1     GCC support library
ii  libjpeg62                  6b-9          The Independent JPEG Group's JPEG
ii  libkonq4                   4:3.1.3-1     Core libraries for KDE's file mana
ii  libpcre3                   4.3-3         Philip Hazel's Perl 5 Compatible R
ii  libpng12-0                 1.2.5.0-4     PNG library - runtime
ii  libqt3c102-mt              3:3.2.1-6     Qt GUI Library (Threaded runtime v
ii  libstdc++5                 1:3.3.2-0pre5 The GNU Standard C++ Library v3
ii  libxrender1                0.8.3-2       X Rendering Extension client libra
ii  xlibs                      4.2.1-12.1    X Window System client libraries
ii  zlib1g                     1:1.1.4-15    compression library - runtime

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I can confirm this bug. For me it doesn't happen every 3 or 5 clicks,
but maybe every 10, 15 or 20 clicks at completely irregular intervals,
but it's still very annoying. I have an Athlon XP 2000+, XFree 4.2.1 and
an M$ Intelli Mouse.

Jens

-- System Information:
Debian Release: testing/unstable
Architecture: i386
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Locale: LANG=de_DE@euro, LC_CTYPE=de_DE@euro

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ii  libjpeg62                  6b-9          The Independent JPEG
ii  libkonq4                   4:3.1.3-1     Core libraries for KDE's
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The severity of this bug should not be set to normal. This is the
documentation of the three severity levels, which have to be considered:

grave - makes the package in question unusable or mostly so, or causes
data loss, or introduces a security hole allowing access to the accounts
of users who use the package.

important - a bug which has a major effect on the usability of a
package, without rendering it completely unusable to everyone.

normal - the default value, applicable to most bugs.

The bug can possibly cause data loss, because you always end up moving
files around where you don't want them (if you keep using Konquerer at
all). This justifies the possibility to rate this bug as grave. The
severity should be at least important, because it's not completely
impossible to use Konqueror and not everyone is affected.

Jens


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package konqueror
submitter 214475 !
reassign 214475 xlibs
thanks

Hi,

I have found out more information about this bug.

As a previous poster already said, it occurs only in the
KonqSideBarDirTree, the sidebar that appears when pressing f9.  It
occurs when some I/O or other kind of hard work has to happen after
switching from one directory to another.  Also, you have to try to
move your mouse as fast as possible away after clicking, this was also
mentionned before. For example, if one directory is shown in a
different konqueror view mode ( list view vs. icons ), then after
switching from the list view to the icons, a lot of work has to happen
( i guess loading the library from disk ?  ).  While this work is
being done, no X input is being processed.  Next, when control returns
to the Qt event loop, it apparently gets first a pretty big mouse
movement and only then the release event ( I've debugged it with a
breakpoint on QApplication::x11ProcessEvent and such ).  Apparently,
this is a bug in Xlib.  On merging two subsequent mouse move events,
it apparently does not check whether a mouse release occurred in
between them ( in which case it should of course *not* merge them ).

I'm setting the submitter to myself ( as I can reproduce and
comfortably debug it ) and reassigning to Xlibs.

cheers
domi

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