On Fri, 2004-07-09 at 07:14, Michel Dänzer wrote: > Ideally, please provide one log of a failure with 'ati' and another of a > successful startup with 'radeon'. Now I feel dumb. I can't get it to fail anymore. Something must have changed between the sarge of now, and the sarge of the debian installer. If the logs are still useful I have the old logs. David