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Re: Do we still need to mention the "Debian Packagint Manual" in /doc/devel-manuals ?



Le Sat, Aug 04, 2012 at 11:25:21AM +0900, Charles Plessy a écrit :
> 
> I was looking at http://www.debian.org/doc/devel-manuals, and found that the
> entry about the Debian Packaging Manual was outdated and contradictory, where
> the description says that it does not overlap with the Policy and the status
> field explains that it was merged to the Policy.  In addition, the package
> packaging-manual is not available anymore, and the website does not
> redistribute the manual.
> 
> How about removing the entry entirely ?

Hi again,

how about the attached patch ?  For up-to-date translations, it increments the
revision number, and leaves it unchanged otherwise.

Please let me know if I can commit it.

Have a nice Sunday,

-- 
Charles Plessy
Tsurumi, Kanagawa, Japan
Index: danish/doc/devel-manuals.wml
===================================================================
RCS file: /cvs/webwml/webwml/danish/doc/devel-manuals.wml,v
retrieving revision 1.57
diff -u -r1.57 devel-manuals.wml
--- danish/doc/devel-manuals.wml	6 Mar 2012 01:00:45 -0000	1.57
+++ danish/doc/devel-manuals.wml	26 Aug 2012 03:11:21 -0000
@@ -1,5 +1,5 @@
 #use wml::debian::ddp title="DDP's udviklerhåndbøger"
-#use wml::debian::translation-check translation="1.64"
+#use wml::debian::translation-check translation="1.65"
 #include "$(ENGLISHDIR)/doc/manuals.defs"
 #include "$(ENGLISHDIR)/doc/devel-manuals.defs"
 
@@ -58,31 +58,6 @@
 
 <hr>
 
-<document "Debians pakningshåndbog" "packman">
-
-<div class="centerblock">
-<p>
-  Denne håndbog beskriver de tekniske aspekter ved fremstillingen af 
-  Debians binære- og kildekodepakker. Den dokumenterer også grænsefladen 
-  mellem dselect og dettes adgangsscripts. Håndbogen behandler ikke 
-  Debian-projekets retningslinier, og den forudsætter kendskab til dpkg's
-  funktionalitet fra en systemadministrators perspektiv.
-
-<doctable>
-  <authors "Ian Jackson, Klee Dienes, David A. Morris, Christian Schwarz">
-  <status>
-  Delene som var de facto-retningslinier blev for nylig flettet ind i 
-  debian-policy; resten er planlagt til at blive indkluderet i en ny 
-  'dpkg pakningshåndbog', som Wichert Akkerman vil skrive.
-  </status>
-  <availability>
-  Tidligere tilgængelig i pakken <code>packaging-manual</code>.
-  </availability>
-</doctable>
-</div>
-
-<hr>
-
 <document "Debians opslagsbog for udviklere" "devref">
 
 <div class="centerblock">
Index: dutch/doc/devel-manuals.wml
===================================================================
RCS file: /cvs/webwml/webwml/dutch/doc/devel-manuals.wml,v
retrieving revision 1.37
diff -u -r1.37 devel-manuals.wml
--- dutch/doc/devel-manuals.wml	6 Mar 2012 01:00:46 -0000	1.37
+++ dutch/doc/devel-manuals.wml	26 Aug 2012 03:11:23 -0000
@@ -1,7 +1,7 @@
 #use wml::debian::ddp title="DDP Handleidingen voor Ontwikkelaars"
 #include "$(ENGLISHDIR)/doc/manuals.defs"
 #include "$(ENGLISHDIR)/doc/devel-manuals.defs"
-#use wml::debian::translation-check translation="1.64"
+#use wml::debian::translation-check translation="1.65"
 
 # Last Translation Update by $Author: taffit $
 # Last Translation Update at $Date: 2012-03-06 01:00:46 $
@@ -64,31 +64,6 @@
 
 <hr>
 
-<document "Debian Packaging Manual" "packman">
-
-<div class="centerblock">
-<p>
-  Deze handleiding beschrijft de technische aspecten van het aanmaken van
-  binaire en broncodepakketten voor Debian. Het documenteert ook de interface
-  tussen dselect en zijn toegangsscripts. Het behandelt geen Debian
-  Policy-vereisten en het veronderstelt dat u vertrouwd bent met de functies
-  van dpkg vanuit het standpunt van systeembeheerder.
-
-<doctable>
-  <authors "Ian Jackson, Klee Dienes, David A. Morris, Christian Schwarz">
-  <status>
-  Delen die defacto-beleid zijn, zijn recent in debian-policy geïncorporeerd;
-  de rest is gepland om in een nieuwe `dpkg packaging manual' te komen, die
-  zal worden geschreven door Wichert Akkerman.
-  </status>
-  <availability>
-  Voorheen beschikbaar in het <code>packaging-manual</code>-pakket.
-  </availability>
-</doctable>
-</div>
-
-<hr>
-
 <document "Debian Developer's Reference" "devref">
 
 <div class="centerblock">
Index: english/doc/devel-manuals.wml
===================================================================
RCS file: /cvs/webwml/webwml/english/doc/devel-manuals.wml,v
retrieving revision 1.64
diff -u -r1.64 devel-manuals.wml
--- english/doc/devel-manuals.wml	6 Mar 2012 01:00:48 -0000	1.64
+++ english/doc/devel-manuals.wml	26 Aug 2012 03:11:24 -0000
@@ -60,31 +60,6 @@
 
 <hr>
 
-<document "Debian Packaging Manual" "packman">
-
-<div class="centerblock">
-<p>
-  This manual describes the technical aspects of creating Debian binary
-  and source packages. It also documents the interface between dselect
-  and its access method scripts. It does not deal with the Debian
-  Project policy requirements, and it assumes familiarity with dpkg's
-  functions from the system administrator's perspective.
-
-<doctable>
-  <authors "Ian Jackson, Klee Dienes, David A. Morris, Christian Schwarz">
-  <status>
-  Parts that were de facto policy were recently merged into debian-policy;
-  the rest is planned to be included in a new `dpkg packaging manual', to
-  be written by Wichert Akkerman.
-  </status>
-  <availability>
-  Previously available in the <code>packaging-manual</code> package.
-  </availability>
-</doctable>
-</div>
-
-<hr>
-
 <document "Debian Developer's Reference" "devref">
 
 <div class="centerblock">
Index: finnish/doc/devel-manuals.wml
===================================================================
RCS file: /cvs/webwml/webwml/finnish/doc/devel-manuals.wml,v
retrieving revision 1.47
diff -u -r1.47 devel-manuals.wml
--- finnish/doc/devel-manuals.wml	7 Apr 2012 21:16:53 -0000	1.47
+++ finnish/doc/devel-manuals.wml	26 Aug 2012 03:11:25 -0000
@@ -1,7 +1,7 @@
 #use wml::debian::ddp title="DDP:n kehittäjän oppaat"
 #include "$(ENGLISHDIR)/doc/manuals.defs"
 #include "$(ENGLISHDIR)/doc/devel-manuals.defs"
-#use wml::debian::translation-check translation="1.64"
+#use wml::debian::translation-check translation="1.65"
 
 <document "Debianin linjan kuvaus (englanninkielinen)" "policy">
 
@@ -62,31 +62,6 @@
 
 <hr>
 
-<document "Debianin pakettiopas (englanninkielinen)" "packman">
-
-<div class="centerblock">
-<p>
-  Tämä opas kertoo Debianin binääri- ja lähdekoodipakettien luomiseen
-  liittyvistä teknisistä näkökohdista. Se dokumentoi myös dselect:in ja
-  sen hakutoimintoskriptien välistä liittymää. Se ei käsittele
-  Debian-projektin linjausten vaatimuksia, ja olettaa dpkg:n
-  toimintojen tuntemista järjestelmän ylläpitäjän näkökulmasta.
-
-<doctable>
-  <authors "Ian Jackson, Klee Dienes, David A. Morris, Christian Schwarz">
-  <status>
-  Osat jotka olivat de facto-käytäntöä yhdistettiin äskettäin
-  debian-policy-oppaaseen; loput on suunniteltu liitettäväksi
-  uuteen `dpkg-pakettioppaaseen', jonka kirjoittaa Wichert Akkerman.
-  </status>
-  <availability>
-  Ollut aiemmin saatavilla <code>packaging-manual</code>-paketissa.
-  </availability>
-</doctable>
-</div>
-
-<hr>
-
 <document "Debian-kehittäjien käsikirja (englanninkielinen)" "devref">
 
 <div class="centerblock">
Index: french/doc/devel-manuals.wml
===================================================================
RCS file: /cvs/webwml/webwml/french/doc/devel-manuals.wml,v
retrieving revision 1.52
diff -u -r1.52 devel-manuals.wml
--- french/doc/devel-manuals.wml	6 Mar 2012 01:00:51 -0000	1.52
+++ french/doc/devel-manuals.wml	26 Aug 2012 03:11:26 -0000
@@ -1,7 +1,7 @@
 #use wml::debian::ddp title="Manuels DDP des développeurs"
 #include "$(ENGLISHDIR)/doc/manuals.defs"
 #include "$(ENGLISHDIR)/doc/devel-manuals.defs"
-#use wml::debian::translation-check translation="1.64" maintainer="David Prévot"
+#use wml::debian::translation-check translation="1.65" maintainer="David Prévot"
 
 # Translators
 # Mickael Simon, 2001-2003.
@@ -69,32 +69,6 @@
 
 <hr>
 
-<document "Manuel de l'empaquetage Debian" "packman">
-
-<div class="centerblock">
-<p> 
-  Ce manuel décrit les aspects techniques de la création de paquets binaires
-  et de paquets sources Debian. Il documente également l'interface entre
-  dselect et ses scripts de méthodes d'accès. Il ne traite pas des exigences
-  définies par la Charte du projet Debian et il suppose une certaine
-  familiarité avec les fonctions de dpkg du point de vue de l'administration
-  d'un système. 
-
-<doctable>
-  <authors "Ian Jackson, Klee Dienes, David A. Morris, Christian Schwarz">
-  <status>
-  Les parties propres à la Charte ont été récemment versées dans
-  debian-policy&nbsp;; le reste sera inclus dans le nouveau «&nbsp;Manuel dpkg
-  du paquet&nbsp;» que doit écrire Wichert Akkerman.
-  </status>
-  <availability>
-  Auparavant disponible dans le paquet <code>packaging-manual</code>.
-  </availability>
-</doctable>
-</div>
-
-<hr>
-
 <document "Référence du développeur Debian" "devref">
 
 <div class="centerblock">
Index: german/doc/devel-manuals.wml
===================================================================
RCS file: /cvs/webwml/webwml/german/doc/devel-manuals.wml,v
retrieving revision 1.68
diff -u -r1.68 devel-manuals.wml
--- german/doc/devel-manuals.wml	7 Mar 2012 20:46:52 -0000	1.68
+++ german/doc/devel-manuals.wml	26 Aug 2012 03:11:27 -0000
@@ -1,5 +1,5 @@
 #use wml::debian::ddp title="DDP Entwickler-Handbücher"
-#use wml::debian::translation-check translation="1.64"
+#use wml::debian::translation-check translation="1.65"
 # $Id: devel-manuals.wml,v 1.68 2012-03-07 20:46:52 holger-guest Exp $
 #include "$(ENGLISHDIR)/doc/manuals.defs"
 #include "$(ENGLISHDIR)/doc/devel-manuals.defs"
@@ -69,34 +69,6 @@
 
 <hr />
 
-<document "Debian Paketierungs-Handbuch" "packman">
-
-<div class="centerblock">
-<p>
-  Dieses Handbuch beschreibt die technischen Aspekte bei der Erzeugung
-  von Binär- und Quellpaketen für Debian. Es dokumentiert die
-  Schnittstelle zwischen dselect und den Skripten der Access-Methoden.
-  Es behandelt nicht die Policy-Anforderungen und es setzt
-  Vertrautheit mit Funktionen von dpkg aus der Perspektive eines
-  Systemadministrators voraus.
-</p>
-
-<doctable>
-  <authors "Ian Jackson, Klee Dienes, David A. Morris, Christian Schwarz">
-  <status>
-  Teile, die de facto Policy waren, wurden kürzlich in die
-  debian-policy aufgenommen. Es ist geplant, den Rest in ein neues
-  <q>dpkg Paketierungs-Handbuch</q> aufzunehmen, das von Wichert Akkerman
-  geschrieben werden soll.
-  </status>
-  <availability>
-  Bisher verfügbar im Paket <code>packaging-manual</code>.
-  </availability>
-</doctable>
-</div>
-
-<hr />
-
 <document "Debian-Entwicklerreferenz" "devref">
 
 <div class="centerblock">
Index: indonesian/doc/devel-manuals.wml
===================================================================
RCS file: /cvs/webwml/webwml/indonesian/doc/devel-manuals.wml,v
retrieving revision 1.2
diff -u -r1.2 devel-manuals.wml
--- indonesian/doc/devel-manuals.wml	6 Mar 2012 01:00:53 -0000	1.2
+++ indonesian/doc/devel-manuals.wml	26 Aug 2012 03:11:27 -0000
@@ -60,31 +60,6 @@
 
 <hr>
 
-<document "Debian Packaging Manual" "packman">
-
-<div class="centerblock">
-<p>
-  Manual ini menjelaskan aspek teknik pembuatan paket binari Debian dan
-  paket sumber. Juga dokumen antarmuka antara yang tidak terpilih dan 
-  skrip metode aksesnya. Tidak sesuai dengan kebijakan Proyek Debian
-  yang diperlukan, dan mengasumsikan kefamiliaran dengan fungsi dpkg
-  dari prespektif administrator sistem.
-
-<doctable>
-  <authors "Ian Jackson, Klee Dienes, David A. Morris, Christian Schwarz">
-  <status>
-  Sebagian kebijakan ternyata telah digabungkan ke dalam debian-policy;
-  seluruh manualnya direncanakan akan disertakan dalam 'manual pemaketan dpkg' 
-  yang baru, akan ditulis oleh Wichert Akkerman.
-  </status>
-  <availability>
-  Sebelumnya tersedia di paket <code>manual-pemaketan</code>.
-  </availability>
-</doctable>
-</div>
-
-<hr>
-
 <document "Debian Developer's Reference" "devref">
 
 <div class="centerblock">
Index: italian/doc/devel-manuals.wml
===================================================================
RCS file: /cvs/webwml/webwml/italian/doc/devel-manuals.wml,v
retrieving revision 1.40
diff -u -r1.40 devel-manuals.wml
--- italian/doc/devel-manuals.wml	6 Mar 2012 01:00:54 -0000	1.40
+++ italian/doc/devel-manuals.wml	26 Aug 2012 03:11:27 -0000
@@ -1,7 +1,7 @@
 #use wml::debian::ddp title="Manuali del DDP per gli sviluppatori"
 #include "$(ENGLISHDIR)/doc/manuals.defs"
 #include "$(ENGLISHDIR)/doc/devel-manuals.defs"
-#use wml::debian::translation-check translation="1.64" maintainer="Francesca Ciceri"
+#use wml::debian::translation-check translation="1.65" maintainer="Francesca Ciceri"
 #first translator and maintainer="Johan Haggi"
 
 <document "Debian Policy Manual" "policy">
@@ -64,31 +64,6 @@
 
 <hr>
 
-<document "Debian Packaging Manual" "packman">
-
-<div class="centerblock">
-<p>
-  Questo manuale descrive gli aspetti tecnici della creazione di pacchetti Debian binari
-  o di sorgenti. Documenta anche l'interfaccia tra dselect
-  e gli script per i suoi metodi di accesso. Non tratta delle linee guida del Progetto
-  Debian e presuppone una buona conoscenza del funzionamento di dpkg
-  dal punto di vista dell'amministratore di sistema.
-
-<doctable>
-  <authors "Ian Jackson, Klee Dienes, David A. Morris, Christian Schwarz">
-  <status>
-  Parti che erano di fatto linee guida sono state recentemente inserite debian-policy;
-  il resto è previsto che sia incluso nel nuovo &quot;dpkg packaging manual&quot;, in
-  corso di scrittura da parte di Wichert Akkerman.
-  </status>
-  <availability>
-  Precedentemente disponibile nel pacchetto <code>packaging-manual</code>.
-  </availability>
-</doctable>
-</div>
-
-<hr>
-
 <document "Debian Developer's Reference" "devref">
 
 <div class="centerblock">
Index: japanese/doc/devel-manuals.wml
===================================================================
RCS file: /cvs/webwml/webwml/japanese/doc/devel-manuals.wml,v
retrieving revision 1.21
diff -u -r1.21 devel-manuals.wml
--- japanese/doc/devel-manuals.wml	6 Mar 2012 01:00:55 -0000	1.21
+++ japanese/doc/devel-manuals.wml	26 Aug 2012 03:11:28 -0000
@@ -58,29 +58,6 @@
 
 <hr>
 
-<document "Debian パッケージ化マニュアル" "packman">
-
-<div class="centerblock">
-<p>
-  このマニュアルでは、Debian のバイナリパッケージとソースパッケージ作成についての技術的な
-  側面が説明されています。また、dselect とその access method スクリプト間のインター
-  フェイスについても記載しています。Debian プロジェクトで必要となるポリシーについては扱い
-  ませんし、システム管理者の観点における dpkg の機能はよくわかっているものとします。
-
-<doctable>
-  <authors "Ian Jackson, Klee Dienes, David A. Morris, Christian Schwarz">
-  <status>
-  実質的にポリシーだった部分は、最近 debian-policy にマージされました。残りは、Wichert Akkerman
-  が書いている新しい `dpkg パッケージ化マニュアル' に含められる予定です。
-  </status>
-  <availability>
-  以前は、<code>packaging-manual</code> パッケージの中にありました。
-  </availability>
-</doctable>
-</div>
-
-<hr>
-
 <document "Debian 開発者リファレンス" "devref">
 
 <div class="centerblock">
Index: portuguese/doc/devel-manuals.wml
===================================================================
RCS file: /cvs/webwml/webwml/portuguese/doc/devel-manuals.wml,v
retrieving revision 1.26
diff -u -r1.26 devel-manuals.wml
--- portuguese/doc/devel-manuals.wml	6 Mar 2012 01:00:55 -0000	1.26
+++ portuguese/doc/devel-manuals.wml	26 Aug 2012 03:11:29 -0000
@@ -69,31 +69,6 @@
 
 <hr>
 
-<document "Manual de Empacotamento Debian" "packman">
-
-<div class="centerblock">
-<p>
-  Este manual descreve os aspectos técnicos da criação de pacotes binários
-  e fonte. Ele também documenta a interface entre o dselect e seus scripts
-  de métodos de acesso. Ele não lida com os requerimentos da política do
-  Projeto Debian, e assume familiaridade com as funções do dpkg da
-  perspectiva de um administrador de sistemas.
-
-<doctable>
-  <authors "Ian Jackson, Klee Dienes, David A. Morris, Christian Schwarz">
-  <status>
-  Partes que eram práticas comuns foram recentemente colocadas na política;
-  a inclusão do resto em um novo 'manual de empacotamento dpkg', que será
-  escrito por Wichert Akkerman, está planejada.
-  </status>
-  <availability>
-  Disponível anteriormente no pacote <code>packaging-manual</code>.
-  </availability>
-</doctable>
-</div>
-
-<hr>
-
 <document "Referência dos Desenvolvedores Debian" "devref">
 
 <div class="centerblock">
Index: russian/doc/devel-manuals.wml
===================================================================
RCS file: /cvs/webwml/webwml/russian/doc/devel-manuals.wml,v
retrieving revision 1.38
diff -u -r1.38 devel-manuals.wml
--- russian/doc/devel-manuals.wml	6 Mar 2012 01:00:56 -0000	1.38
+++ russian/doc/devel-manuals.wml	26 Aug 2012 03:11:30 -0000
@@ -60,31 +60,6 @@
 
 <hr>
 
-<document "Руководство по созданию пакетов Debian" "packman">
-
-<div class="centerblock">
-<p>
-  Это руководство описывает технические аспекты создания двоичных и
-  исходных пакетов Debian. Оно также документирует интерфейс между dselect
-  и его скриптами методов доступа. Он не описывает требования "Политики
-  Debian" и предназначен для ознакомления с функциями dpkg с точки зрения
-  системного администратора.
-
-<doctable>
-  <authors "Ian Jackson, Klee Dienes, David A. Morris, Christian Schwarz">
-  <status>
-  Части, которые de-facto относились к политике, были перенесены в debian-policy;
-  остальное планируется включить в `dpkg packaging manual', написанный
-  Вичертом Акерманом (Wichert Akkerman).
-  </status>
-  <availability>
-  Ранее был доступен в пакете <inpackage "packaging-manual">
-  </availability>
-</doctable>
-</div>
-
-<hr>
-
 <document "Справочник разработчика Debian" "devref">
 
 <div class="centerblock">
Index: spanish/doc/devel-manuals.wml
===================================================================
RCS file: /cvs/webwml/webwml/spanish/doc/devel-manuals.wml,v
retrieving revision 1.36
diff -u -r1.36 devel-manuals.wml
--- spanish/doc/devel-manuals.wml	6 Mar 2012 01:00:57 -0000	1.36
+++ spanish/doc/devel-manuals.wml	26 Aug 2012 03:11:30 -0000
@@ -60,34 +60,6 @@
 
 <hr>
 
-<document "Manual de Empaquetamiento de Debian" "packman">
-
-<div class="centerblock">
-<p>
-  Este manual describe los aspectos técnicos para la creación de
-  paquetes binarios (binary) y fuente (source) de Debian. También
-  documenta la interfaz entre dselect y sus scripts de acceso.
-  No cubre los requerimientos normativos del Proyecto Debian y asume
-  cierta familiaridad con las funciones de dpkg desde la perspectiva del
-  administrador de sistemas.
-
-<doctable>
-  <authors "Ian Jackson, Klee Dienes, David A. Morris, Christian Schwarz">
-  <status>
-  Las partes que formaban la normativa <em>de facto</em> 
-  fueron recientemente integradas en debian-policy; 
-  el resto se planea sean incluidas en el nuevo 
-  <q>manual de  empaquetamiento de dpkg</q>, que escribirá 
-  Wichert Akkerman.
-  </status>
-  <availability>
-  Previamente disponible en el paquete <code>packaging-manual</code>.
-  </availability>
-</doctable>
-</div>
-
-<hr>
-
 <document "Referencia del Desarrollador de Debian" "devref">
 
 <div class="centerblock">
Index: swedish/doc/devel-manuals.wml
===================================================================
RCS file: /cvs/webwml/webwml/swedish/doc/devel-manuals.wml,v
retrieving revision 1.51
diff -u -r1.51 devel-manuals.wml
--- swedish/doc/devel-manuals.wml	6 Mar 2012 01:00:57 -0000	1.51
+++ swedish/doc/devel-manuals.wml	26 Aug 2012 03:11:34 -0000
@@ -62,31 +62,6 @@
 
 <hr>
 
-<document "Debians paketeringshandbok" "packman">
-
-<div class="centerblock">
-<p>
-  Denna handbok beskriver de tekniska aspekterna vad gäller att skapa
-  binär- och källkodspaket för Debian.
-  Den beskriver även gränssnittet mellan dselect och dess åtkomstskript.
-  Den hanterar inte Debianprojektets policykrav, och förutsätter
-  förtrogenhet med dpkgs funktioner från systemadministratörens synvinkel.
-
-<doctable>
-  <authors "Ian Jackson, Klee Dienes, David A. Morris, Christian Schwarz">
-  <status>
-  Delar som var de facto-policy flyttades nyligen in i debian-policy;
-  resten är planerad att ingå i en ny "dpkg-paketeringshandbok", som
-  skall skrivas av Wichert Akkerman.
-  </status>
-  <availability>
-  Tidigare tillgängligt i paketet <code>packaging-manual</code>.
-  </availability>
-</doctable>
-</div>
-
-<hr>
-
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