Re: www.d.o/misc/children-distros
On Sun, Jan 30, 2011 at 5:41 AM, Stefano Zacchiroli <zack@debian.org> wrote:
> On Sat, Jan 29, 2011 at 01:09:32PM +0800, Paul Wise wrote:
>> Remove their Derivatives/Census/ page if it exists (a thought for the
>> future).
>
> Yeah, although this my turn out to be a bit more complicate, in the
> sense that we need to decide how often synchronize the wiki page with
> the www.d.o page. Keeping the wiki page make sense as it makes very easy
> for derivatives to declare themselves, but we need to ensure that
> periodically we sync with the static list. Any idea about how to do
> that? (I'm totally fine with you doing that, but having a mechanism that
> help in forgetting doing this would be nice. E.g.: a periodic report on
> this list of which new distros have been added to the wiki and the
> "diff" with the website.)
I'm personally following the wiki RecentChanges RSS feed so I see
almost all wiki updates. If anyone else wants to help do this they
could subscribe to Derivatives/Census/.* and get emails whenever a
page is added there. With some filtering it should be possible to get
just notifications of new pages.
>> Not sure how to decide if the link gets added or not.
>
> Uhm, I'm not sure I understand this: is your doubt how to decide whether
> a distro is "dead" or not? In that case, I believe many distros are
> "clearly" dead (e.g. gone website, no release for the past 5 years,
> etc.). A conservative rule could be that we consider them dead as long
> as there is no doubt that they are not.
I wasn't really thinking about it distro deadness level being unclear
(that is a good point though) but more about if we keep every little
dead livecd distro or just prominent distros. Maybe we should just
apply an "external link" rule; if there is an external link (at
distrowatch/wikipedia or a homepage that states the project has
finished), then add the link otherwise leave it out.
>> Any thoughts?
>
> A comment I advanced some times ago to the -www team about that and
> similarly structured pages (e.g. the partners page) was to reorganize
> them with per-entry pages, having the main page which is just an index,
> but an index with (equally-sized) logos of each distro. The rationale is
> that distros tend to be clearly identified by logos, and having them in
> the index makes easy for users of those distro to realize "hey, this is
> my distro". I'm not sure whether it would make sense or not to have the
> index page point to the wiki entries of the census; this question is
> related to the work-flow between www.d.o <-> wiki.d.o above.
I think it makes sense to have a small amount of info in addition to
the logo on the index page and more detailed information on a sub-page
or external site. If the info was removed, having to click every logo
to find out what all of these derivatives are about could get
annoying.
--
bye,
pabs
http://wiki.debian.org/PaulWise
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