Re: When and how can we migrate out of CVS and WML ? (Re: How to make Debian more attractive for users)
On Wed, Aug 04, 2010 at 12:21:29AM +0900, Charles Plessy wrote:
> Le Sat, Jul 31, 2010 at 10:25:08AM +0300, Andrei Popescu a écrit :
> > the people complaining about wml did not mention what
> > the issues were and did not propose an alternative.
>
> What I learn in Debian I use elsewhere, and what I learn elsewhere I use
> in Debian. There are exceptions such as WML, which seems to be a dead end.
>
> I think that there could be more people working on our website if it were using
> some system that is used by Debian contributors for their own sites or at their
> workplace. At least for me, I am not interested to study WML, so my
> contributions are limited to modify or delete pages in my area of interest, but
> I am not making new developments.
Come-on, the simple wml pages are just html files, and a generic
makefile that often doesn't need any change.
It's sure it may scare some people because it sounds 90's compared to
wiki, put allow arbitrary perl or whatever scripting inside.
> I notice that for the part of the website I am intersted in, there is almost no
> development at all, and that much more content is added to wiki.debian.org.
> Still, I like the idea to have on www.debian.org informations for the general
> public and users, and on wiki.debian.org some contents more volatile and in
> construction.
>
> I am exploring how possible it would be to use the markdown syntax through
> ikiwiki to reproduce the pages under /devel/debian-med. It looks quite
> promising.
>
> Do you or somebody else know what are the areas of our website that crucially
> depend on specialised functions or scripts of WML, and if these pages are
> still maintained ?
Someone like Rhonda or me or previous webmasters ?
Yes WML is really used (from the easy use, variable substitution for
releases names, version, release date, to conditional use,etc.), see
english/template/debian for example:
http://cvs.debian.org/webwml/webwml/english/template/debian/?sortby=log
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Simon Paillard
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