Re: Debian Wiki and wikihomepages
On Sat, 07 Mar 2009, Frank Lin PIAT wrote:
> Raphael,
>
> > Contribuez à Debian et gagnez un cahier de l'admin Debian Lenny :
> > www.o uaza.com/wp/2009/03/02/contribuer-a-debian-gagner-un-livre/
>
> Your contest to make people win your book if they contributed to Debian
> was probably a good idea...
>
> However, asking people to write a wiki homepage containing nothing but
> the list of what he/she did for Debian wasn't a good idea:
I hear your point of view but IMO it's important for new contributors to
be able to have a page where they list all their contributions because if we
ever want to grant them some special status, they need to show us what
they did and pointing to that wiki page is then the right thing.
I have not invented this out of the blue, it's exactly how Ubuntu are
doing. Anyone who wants to become MOTU has to create its own pages:
https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuDevelopers
https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuDevelopment/DeveloperApplicationTemplate
Some examples:
https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FabriceCoutadeur/UniverseContributorApplication
https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ElliotMurphy/UniverseContributorApplication
So I'm not "abusing" the wiki for my contest, I just ask them to follow a
process to help them in the future if they want to apply for Debian
Maitainer or anything similar.
> Wiki homepage are for wiki contributors only (it's a mean to contact
> wiki contributors, and understand their motivation).
I do not agree with this. The wiki is also a tool for other teams
including NM and if we ask people to use a wiki page for valid purpose,
there's no reason to forbid this.
Consider this an experiment that concerns the NM team.
> There are lots of reasons why we don't want to have billions of
> wikihomepages (People should be invited to contribute to official
> documentations rather that on the wiki ; Limit spam ; Limit workload of
> maintaining the pages / what if DebianWiki had 1 million user wiki home
> page? ; the wikihomepage and regular wikipage share the same namespace ;
> and many other reasons I can't think of right now).
None of those reasons are very convincing. The ubuntu wiki works well
despite all of this.
> Actually, we drop
> wikihomepage for wikiuser who made no contribution to the wiki 1 month
> after the page creation.
Please don't do that in this case. The contest ends at end of june. I can
help you do a pass on all the wiki pages at that point if needed. But you
have CategoryHomepage to ease the maintenance workload so that you can
skip those pages.
> It would be nice if you could change the contest's rules so participants
> use their usual website/homepage.
You can't expect everybody to have their own website.
Cheers,
--
Raphaël Hertzog
Contribuez à Debian et gagnez un cahier de l'admin Debian Lenny :
http://www.ouaza.com/wp/2009/03/02/contribuer-a-debian-gagner-un-livre/
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