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Bug#364896: marked as done (make new maintainer corner clearer)

Your message dated Fri, 27 Jul 2007 23:47:10 +0200
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and subject line Bug#364896: make new maintainer corner clearer
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Package: www.debian.org
Severity: wishlist
Tags: patch

in the thread starting at [1] it became clear that the language on the 
new-maintainer corner isn't clear enough. Attached is the proposed 
rewording worked out in the subthread starting at [2].

[1] http://lists.debian.org/debian-i18n/2006/04/threads.html
[2] http://lists.debian.org/debian-i18n/2006/04/msg00088.html
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--- newmaint.wml.orig	2006-04-26 15:25:16.000000000 +0200
+++ newmaint.wml	2006-04-26 15:35:00.000000000 +0200
@@ -1,66 +1,64 @@
 #use wml::debian::template title="Debian New Maintainers' Corner" BARETITLE="true"
 
-<p>The Debian New Maintainer process is a series of required proceedings to
-become a Debian Developer. On these web pages, prospective Debian Developers
-can find all the details of applying, the process details, and how to track
-the progress of ongoing applications.</p>
-
-<p>Many people wish to contribute to Debian, though not all know that you
-<em>don't</em> need to be an official developer to do so.
-<a href="#Sponsor">Sponsors</a> can integrate work of non-developers and
-do so on a frequent basis. Some ways of contributing (translating,
-writing documentation and reporting bugs) can be done by everyone and
-don't require developer status.</p>
-
-<div class="quoteblock">
-  <div class="preimg"><img src="../../logos/officiallogo-nd-25.jpg"  alt=""
-  width="12" height="24"></div>
-
- <div>
-  <blockquote><p>
-   The Debian design process is open to ensure that the system is of the
-   highest quality and that it reflects the needs of the user community.
-  </p></blockquote>
-  <cite>
-   -- "The Debian Linux Manifesto"
-  </cite>
-  </div>
-</div>
-
-<p>The Debian Project is an open community and welcomes everyone who wants
-to use our distribution or even tries to help us. Nevertheless, appointing
-new developers is controlled by a very strict and thorough process: Every
-official Debian developer is associated with Debian, is allowed to vote
-about issues regarding the whole project, can log in on most systems
-that keep Debian running and has upload permissions for <em>all packages</em>.
-Giving this kind of access is accompanied by a great deal of trust, as we
-heavily depend on our secure infrastructure.
-<br />
-This is not meant to discourage people interested in becoming a registered
-developer, but it is meant to explain why we want people to contribute
-before applying and why the New Maintainer checks take so much time.
-<br />
-It's also important to understand that the New Maintainer process is part
-of Debian's Quality Assurance efforts. Prospective developers doing a lot
-of good work in a short time haven't shown that they are able to do this
-in the long term. Finding developers who have enough free time for
-their Debian tasks is complicated, so checking that Applicants are able
-to sustain their work is important. 
+<p>The Debian New Member process, is the process of becoming an official 
+Debian Developer (DD). These webpages are the place were prospective Debian
+Developers can find all the details on applying to become a DD, the 
+different steps of the process, and how to track the process of their ongoing 
+application.</p>
+
+<p>(<em>Note:</em> the 'developer' in DD basically means 'someone involved with
+improving Debian in some way'. This might mean package maintainer, 
+translator, documentation writer, website maintainer, or ...)</p>
+
+<p>The first important point to make is that you do <em>NOT</em> need to be a
+DD in order to help improving Debian, in fact you should already have a track
+record of earlier contributions to Debian before you start the New Member
+process.</p>
+	
+<p href="#non-maintainer-contributions">Debian is an open community and welcomes
+everyone who wants to use or help improve our distribution. As a non-member you
+can:
+<ul>
+  <li>maintain packages through a <a href="#Sponsor">sponsor</a></li>
+  <li>create and/or review translations</li>
+  <li>create or improve documentation</li>
+  <li><a href="../website">help maintain the website</a></li>
+  <li>help with handling bugs (by providing patches, filing good bugs, 
+  confirming the existence of the bug, finding ways to reproduce the problem,
+  ...)</li>
+  <li>being an active member of a packaging team (e.g. debian-qt-kde or 
+  debian-gnome) </li>
+  <li>being an active member of a subproject (e.g. debian-installer, or 
+  debian-desktop)</li>
+  <li>...</li>
+</ul>
 </p>
+        
+<p>It's important to understand that the New Member process is part of 
+Debian's Quality Assurance efforts. Finding developers with enough free time
+for their Debian tasks is complicated so checking that applicants are able to
+sustain their work, and do it well, is important. Hence the requirement that
+prospective developers have been actively involved in Debian for some time 
+already. </p>
 
-<p>
-To ease the process, it is important to already be familiar with Debian,
-so we require that prospective developers have already contributed &ndash; in
-the form of translations, documentation, sending patches or package
-maintenance.
-<br />
-Non-Developers can maintain one or more packages for Debian through
-a <a href="#Sponsor">sponsor</a>. As sponsors check the packages they
-want to upload, common problems are easily noticed and can be corrected
-before ending up in the real archive. The sponsoring process also helps
-to understand Debian's procedures and is a kind of mentoring program.
+<p href="#developer-priveleges">Every Debian Developer:
+<ul>
+  <li>is associated with Debian.</li>
+  <li>is allowed to vote about issues regarding the whole project.</li>
+  <li>can log in on most systems that keep Debian running.</li>
+  <li>has upload permissions for <em>all</em> packages.</li>
+  <li>has access to the debian-private mailing list</li>
+</ul>	
 </p>
 
+<p>In other words becoming a Debian Developer grants you several important 
+privileges regarding infrastructure the project heavily depends on. Obviously
+this requires a great deal of trust for and commitment by the applicant.</p>
+	
+<p>Consequently the whole NM process is very strict and thorough. This is not 
+meant to discourage people interested in becoming a registered developer,
+but it does explain why the New Member process takes so much time.</p>
+
 <p>Please read the <a href="#Glossary">glossary definitions</a> before
 reading the rest of the pages.

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Hi Bart!

You wrote:

> corrected patch attached, if there's anything controversial left in there 
> could you point it out (as I'm not sure what that would be). 

Sorry for the overly long delay on this patch.
I've just commited the patch to cvs.  The updated page should be online
in a few hours.

Thanks!
Bas.

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