Re: Suggestions For The Website
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Am 24.06.2006 um 23:26 schrieb kailander:
<form method="get" action="http://cgi.debian.org/cgi-bin/redirect.pl">
<input type="hidden" name="page" value="/intro/about">
<form method="get" action="http://cgi.debian.org/cgi-bin/
<input type="hidden" name="page" value="/intro/about" />
Select a server near you
Not valid HTML.
input elements that are hidden should be directly inside the form,
not inside an element of the form
input tag should end with " /" like that <input type="hidden" />
The page header says "HTML 4.01" which uses exactly our code.
If you suggest changes, please note, that we will not do any changes,
that make the pages not validate any longer. If IE does not display
the HTML corectly, please submit a bug report to the browser
just like <br /> and <hr />
i suggest to put instead of blank space
Her the spaces are not necessary at all. It depends on browsers, how
they display it. a increases the pages size for nothing and
makes code more unreadable in my eyes.
Unfortunately Jutta, who has been doing most of the CSS changes
doesn't test on MSIE at all. :-/
That is not correct completely any longer. And beside that I test in
many other browsers, not mentioned here. Most important rendering
engines are KHTML and Gecko engine as they are used on Unix and Linux
machines most times. Beside that, it is important that the web pages
display fine in Lynx and other common text browsers. Whatever changes
are done, these browsers have to work fine.
This means: Finding a workaround for IE (I suggested to include the
pages for other browsers at all. So testing a change in IE means ti
have a look, if pages are still valid and work in all other browsers.
Blindly applying changes suggested by somebody will break the pages.
In the case above we will get 22,000 validation errors.
But if i tested it on both of them, why dont you make the necessary
Besides, you wrote on the "How is www.debian.org made" the following :
Hope you understand now.
How not to help
[Q] I want to put fancy web feature into www.debian.org, may I?
[A] No. We want www.debian.org to be as accessible as possible, so
* no browser specific "extensions".
* no relying on images only. Images may be used to clarify, but
the information on www.debian.org must remain accessible via a text-
only web browser, like lynx.
Well, if a feature like #outer>#inner in the css doesn't work in
iexplore, doesn't it mean that it is a browser specific "extension" ?
No. It is valid CSS and any browser should know, what it means. If
not, we can find another valid way, maybe.
Anyway, i am very glad that i can participate in the development of
Please read the pages about how to get the cvs tree and try to work
with it. On the other hand you may accept, that there are some rules
for the pages. We are not doing pages for W? users only, but mainly
for Debian Users and any changes must be tested, before applying.
If you find changes, that are valid, please post the diffs to the
list, so that we can have a look at them and apply them, maybe.
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