Bug#235602: marked as done (www.debian.org: ports/alpha is out of date and original author does not respond)
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From: Helge Kreutzmann <kreutzm@itp.uni-hannover.de>
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Subject: www.debian.org: ports/alpha is out of date and original author does not respond
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Version: N/A; reported 2004-03-01
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Hello,
the ports/alpha tree is quite old, with lots of outdated information.
It should be updated. I corrected some problems in the attached diff
files.
Further I noticed that news.wml is not linked from anywhere. I would
suggest removing it, because the latest information in it is not very
peculiar to alpha and the other entries are no longer news. This would
also remove "postgresql-noopt.diff.gz" which is quite outdated,
especially considering that even when potato was released the
README.Debian suggested *not* to use this postgres but rather to
upgrade to a 7.x version (The reason I started testing back then).
Also a recent discussion[1] centered around the SRM-HOWTO, MILO-HOWTO and=
=20
FAQ-HOWTO, which are not linked, and should be removed. I am currently
updating them, but now I even see bugfixes on them instead of their
removal and/or correspondence to me; especially since the SRM-HOWTO will
soon be uploaded as part of the aboot-package.
My diff contains several notes starting with "#HK" which are comments
and/or suggestions.
I contacted the orignal site author (Chris Chimelis) a month ago but
he has not even confirmed the arrival of my mail, therefor I post this
as a bug now.
If you need further information, please contact me; but I am mostly
offline during March 8-28 (but your mail won't be forgotten).
-- System Information
Debian Release: 3.0
Architecture: i386
Kernel: Linux arctur 2.4.22-grsec #1 Thu Jan 8 12:44:10 CET 2004 i686
Locale: LANG=3Den_US, LC_CTYPE=3Den_US
[1] http://lists.debian.org/debian-alpha/2003/debian-alpha-200311/msg00012.=
html
--=20
Helge Kreutzmann, Dipl.-Phys. Helge.Kreutzmann@itp.uni-hannov=
er.de
gpg signed mail preferred gpg-key: finger kreutzm@rigel.itp.uni-hannov=
er.de
64bit GNU powered http://www.itp.uni-hannover.de/~kreu=
tzm
Help keep free software "libre": http://www.freepatents.org/
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--- glibc21-page.wml-orig Thu Jan 29 17:16:58 2004
+++ glibc21-page.wml Thu Jan 29 17:22:46 2004
@@ -17,10 +17,10 @@
<li><b>Library packages must be recompiled before use on glibc 2.1 systems=
</b><br>
This is related to the above. In addition, some soname changes occurred w=
ith
respect to libstdc++, so all C++ software should be recompiled on glibc 2.1
-systems</li>
+systems.</li>
=20
<li><b>New gcc is required</b><br>
-To accomodate the above, a new gcc is on the way to address many of the
+To accommodate the above, a new gcc is on the way to address many of the
above issues more easily. Obviously, with a new version of gcc, it is
often best to recompile your packages with it.</li>
</ul>
@@ -29,4 +29,4 @@
in the glibc 2.1 documentation (which is sparse at the time of this writin=
g).
</p>
=20
-<p>— Christopher C. Chimelis <chris@debian.org>
+<p>— Christopher C. Chimelis <chris@debian.org></p>
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--- links.wml.orig Tue Jan 28 14:32:28 2003
+++ links.wml Fri Jan 30 09:19:42 2004
@@ -7,6 +7,8 @@
=20
<li><A HREF=3D"http://auric.debian.org/~paul/alpha/diff/";>Paul Slootman's
Debian-Alpha Diff Page</A><br>
+#HK: This link is dead -- maybe due to the compromise? Please check
+# or update, I thing similar lists can be found on buildd.debian.net
Maintained by Debian developer and Alpha porter Paul Slootman, this page
contains lists comparing the binary debs in the unstable tree for Alpha
and i386. These lists basically tell Debian developers which packages
@@ -28,6 +30,11 @@
related to Linux on Alphas.</li>
=20
<li><A HREF=3D"http://www.unix-ag.org/Linux-Alpha/";>Linux-Alpha Archive</a=
><br>
+#HK: must-see? The latest news page
+#http://www.unix-ag.org/Linux-Alpha/News/
+#is from 1999! Could you check with Nils at <nils@unix-ag.org> if he
+#still intends to maintain this page? Otherwise we might take over the
+#few interesting bits left and remove this link
Maintained by Nils Faerber, this site includes numerous links and lots of
very valuable information for users wanting to run Linux on their Alphas.
This site is a must-see!</li>
@@ -39,6 +46,9 @@
the different systems. <b>If you really need to know what your system is
despite what it says on the case, see
<A HREF=3D"http://www.alphalinux.org/docs/alpha-howto.html#The%20Systems";>=
this subsection</A>.</b></li>
+#HK: This is a little overstated. This document is from 1997, there were n=
ot
+# even 201264 based machines then. So most users now will not find their
+# machine in this list. Even my LX is not listed!
=20
<li><A HREF=3D"http://www.alphalinux.org/faq/FAQ.html";>Linux/Alpha FAQ</A>=
<br>
A good source of information, the Linux/Alpha FAQ was originally put
@@ -56,10 +66,16 @@
to boot your Alpha, this is the page for you.</li>
=20
<li><A HREF=3D"http://www.support.compaq.com/alpha-tools/documentation/cur=
rent/chip-docs.html">Compaq's New Documentation Library (supersedes the lin=
k below)</A></li>
+#HK: This is 404 (not found)
=20
<li><A HREF=3D"http://ftp.digital.com/pub/Digital/info/semiconductor/liter=
ature/dsc-library.html">Digital's Old Documentation Library</A></li>
=20
<li><A HREF=3D"http://sourceforge.net/projects/hurd-alpha/";>Hurd-Alpha Pro=
ject</A><br>
+#HK: You description is quite positiv for a project, where the sf page tel=
ls me:
+# This project has not yet submitted a description.
+# Status: 1 - Planning
+# All files I saw in CVS are 3 years old.=20
+# I really like to see this get off, but it looks dead to me :-((
The home page for an Alpha port of GNU Hurd. Currently, it's in the preli=
minary stages
but work will hopefully progress quickly.</li>
</ul>
@@ -72,7 +88,7 @@
Send an email with the subject 'subscribe' to=20
<a href=3D"mailto:debian-alpha-request@lists.debian.org";>\
debian-alpha-request@lists.debian.org</a> to subscribe.
-<a href=3D"http://lists.debian.org/debian-alpha/";>Archives are available</=
a>.
+<a href=3D"http://lists.debian.org/debian-alpha/";>Archives are available</=
a>.</li>
=20
<li>RedHat's Linux/Alpha List<br>
=20
@@ -80,6 +96,8 @@
some nice tips for general Linux-Alpha issues. To subscribe, send
mail to <A HREF=3D"mailto:axp-list-request@redhat.com";>axp-list-request@re=
dhat.com</A>
with a subject of "subscribe". Be aware that this list can be high
-volume. <A HREF=3D"http://www.redhat.com/support/mailing-lists/archives/ax=
p-list/">Archives</A> of this list are also available.
+volume. <A HREF=3D"http://www.redhat.com/support/mailing-lists/archives/ax=
p-list/">Archives</A> of this list are also available.</li>
+#HK: The RedHat Archives are 403: Forbidden.
+# http://www.lib.uaa.alaska.edu/axp-list/
=20
</ul>
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--- links.wml.orig Tue Jan 28 14:32:28 2003
+++ links.wml Fri Jan 30 09:19:42 2004
@@ -7,6 +7,8 @@
=20
<li><A HREF=3D"http://auric.debian.org/~paul/alpha/diff/";>Paul Slootman's
Debian-Alpha Diff Page</A><br>
+#HK: This link is dead -- maybe due to the compromise? Please check
+# or update, I thing similar lists can be found on buildd.debian.net
Maintained by Debian developer and Alpha porter Paul Slootman, this page
contains lists comparing the binary debs in the unstable tree for Alpha
and i386. These lists basically tell Debian developers which packages
@@ -28,6 +30,11 @@
related to Linux on Alphas.</li>
=20
<li><A HREF=3D"http://www.unix-ag.org/Linux-Alpha/";>Linux-Alpha Archive</a=
><br>
+#HK: must-see? The latest news page
+#http://www.unix-ag.org/Linux-Alpha/News/
+#is from 1999! Could you check with Nils at <nils@unix-ag.org> if he
+#still intends to maintain this page? Otherwise we might take over the
+#few interesting bits left and remove this link
Maintained by Nils Faerber, this site includes numerous links and lots of
very valuable information for users wanting to run Linux on their Alphas.
This site is a must-see!</li>
@@ -39,6 +46,9 @@
the different systems. <b>If you really need to know what your system is
despite what it says on the case, see
<A HREF=3D"http://www.alphalinux.org/docs/alpha-howto.html#The%20Systems";>=
this subsection</A>.</b></li>
+#HK: This is a little overstated. This document is from 1997, there were n=
ot
+# even 201264 based machines then. So most users now will not find their
+# machine in this list. Even my LX is not listed!
=20
<li><A HREF=3D"http://www.alphalinux.org/faq/FAQ.html";>Linux/Alpha FAQ</A>=
<br>
A good source of information, the Linux/Alpha FAQ was originally put
@@ -56,10 +66,16 @@
to boot your Alpha, this is the page for you.</li>
=20
<li><A HREF=3D"http://www.support.compaq.com/alpha-tools/documentation/cur=
rent/chip-docs.html">Compaq's New Documentation Library (supersedes the lin=
k below)</A></li>
+#HK: This is 404 (not found)
=20
<li><A HREF=3D"http://ftp.digital.com/pub/Digital/info/semiconductor/liter=
ature/dsc-library.html">Digital's Old Documentation Library</A></li>
=20
<li><A HREF=3D"http://sourceforge.net/projects/hurd-alpha/";>Hurd-Alpha Pro=
ject</A><br>
+#HK: You description is quite positiv for a project, where the sf page tel=
ls me:
+# This project has not yet submitted a description.
+# Status: 1 - Planning
+# All files I saw in CVS are 3 years old.=20
+# I really like to see this get off, but it looks dead to me :-((
The home page for an Alpha port of GNU Hurd. Currently, it's in the preli=
minary stages
but work will hopefully progress quickly.</li>
</ul>
@@ -72,7 +88,7 @@
Send an email with the subject 'subscribe' to=20
<a href=3D"mailto:debian-alpha-request@lists.debian.org";>\
debian-alpha-request@lists.debian.org</a> to subscribe.
-<a href=3D"http://lists.debian.org/debian-alpha/";>Archives are available</=
a>.
+<a href=3D"http://lists.debian.org/debian-alpha/";>Archives are available</=
a>.</li>
=20
<li>RedHat's Linux/Alpha List<br>
=20
@@ -80,6 +96,8 @@
some nice tips for general Linux-Alpha issues. To subscribe, send
mail to <A HREF=3D"mailto:axp-list-request@redhat.com";>axp-list-request@re=
dhat.com</A>
with a subject of "subscribe". Be aware that this list can be high
-volume. <A HREF=3D"http://www.redhat.com/support/mailing-lists/archives/ax=
p-list/">Archives</A> of this list are also available.
+volume. <A HREF=3D"http://www.redhat.com/support/mailing-lists/archives/ax=
p-list/">Archives</A> of this list are also available.</li>
+#HK: The RedHat Archives are 403: Forbidden.
+# http://www.lib.uaa.alaska.edu/axp-list/
=20
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Hi Helge.
I applied all your changes with some little corrections (I can send you
a diff if you want). If you want to edit the alpha pages
in the future you should perhaps mail to webmaster@debian.org and
ask, if and how you can get a pserver account for the CVS. I would
be willing to review and apply changes of you until then.
On Thu, Apr 15, 2004 at 06:39:28PM +0200, Helge Kreutzmann wrote:
> The following points are still with FIXMEs, maybe I should discuss
> this, but having your opinion would be great:
> A.Should we preserve Chris Name & Email Adress, e.g. in index.wml?
I have added your name at the bottom of index.wml.
> B.In sys_types.wml you can add my address or ask on debian-alpha if
> someone else is willing to do this.
I have changed the email address to yours.
> C.For many systems, longer descriptions exists. Some are on
> www.alphalinux.org, I also saw extensive listings on the BSD ports.
> Do you think it is sensible to collect those over time and add links
> here? Niels intends to remove/cut down his pages once our page is
> updated[1], so maybe his architecture pages should be moved here? If
> this is indeed sensible, then I can start collecting those which are
> going to be removed soon, and linking others.
> D.I added a link to a page on my home page, which I initially made for alpha
> linux, but now it has become rather general. If you feel this link
Gruesse,
--
Frank Lichtenheld <djpig@debian.org>
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