Bug#108765: marked as done (The Applicant's Checklist web page don't mention the role of the Advocate)
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From: Theodore Tso <tytso@thunk.org>
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Subject: The Applicant's Checklist web page don't mention the role of the Advocate
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The Applicant's Checklist starting at this URL:
http://www.debian.org/devel/join/nm-checklist
... which purports to have a detailed listing of the process which a
new maintainer goes through, doesn't mention the role of having a
Debian Developer to act as an advocate to "verify the application".
The Checklist for Application Managers also doesn't mention the need
for an Advocate. In particular both of these documents don't really
talk about how the Application Manager and the Advocate are supposed
to interact.
However, looking at status of current applicants, it seems pretty
clear that you don't go anywhere fast without having an Advocate.
I assume what happened is that the process got changed to require an
Advocate, instead of having the Application Manager do the
verification, but some of the web pages never got updated.
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Date: Wed, 15 Aug 2001 12:18:05 +0200
From: Martin Michlmayr <tbm@cyrius.com>
To: Theodore Tso <tytso@thunk.org>, 108765-done@bugs.debian.org
Subject: Re: Bug#108765: The Applicant's Checklist web page don't mention the role of the Advocate
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* Theodore Tso <tytso@thunk.org> [20010815 03:55]:
> The Applicant's Checklist starting at this URL:
> http://www.debian.org/devel/join/nm-checklist
> ... which purports to have a detailed listing of the process which a
> new maintainer goes through, doesn't mention the role of having a
> Debian Developer to act as an advocate to "verify the application".
I added more information about the advocate to
http://www.debian.org/devel/join/nm-step1 which is linked from the
page you mentioned. I also added some information about sponsors.
> I assume what happened is that the process got changed to require an
> Advocate, instead of having the Application Manager do the
> verification, but some of the web pages never got updated.
An advocate is needed in order to start the NM process. An
Application Manager (AM) is assigned to an applicant once an advocate
has given his 'go' and the AM then goes through all the checks with
the AM.
Here are the changes I commited to CVS. If you find any other
problems, then simply email me.
Index: newmaint.wml
===================================================================
RCS file: /cvs/webwml/webwml/english/devel/join/newmaint.wml,v
retrieving revision 1.29
diff -u -r1.29 newmaint.wml
--- newmaint.wml 2001/07/17 11:54:49 1.29
+++ newmaint.wml 2001/08/15 10:13:39
@@ -91,7 +91,9 @@
<DT><A name="Advocate">Advocate</A>:</DT>
<DD>An existing Debian developer who recommends an Applicant.
An Applicant can only go through the NM process after an
- Advocate has verified his application.</DD>
+ Advocate has verified his application. The <A HREF =
+ "#Sponsor">Sponsor</A> of an Applicant often acts as his
+ Advocate once he is satisfied with the Applicant's skills.</DD>
<DT><A name="Committee">The NM-Committee</A>: <email debian-newmaint-admin@lists.debian.org></DT>
<DD>The NM-Committee is a body of people who control the New Maintainer
@@ -128,6 +130,19 @@
<br>
Current members are James Troup and Martin (Joey) Schulze.
</DD>
+ <DT><A name="Sponsor">Sponsor</A>:</DT>
+ <DD>A sponsor is an existing Debian Developer (see <A HREF =
+ "#Member">Member</A>) who acts as the mentor of an Applicant:
+ he checks the package done by the applicant and helps him
+ improving the packaging. When the sponsor is satisfied with
+ the package, he uploads it on behalf of the applicant to the
+ Debian archive. The package is called a <I>sponsored package</I>
+ which means that the applicant is the official maintainer but
+ that a member has uploaded it (since applicants are not allowed
+ yet to upload packages themselves). You can find a sponsor by
+ sending an email to <email debian-mentors@lists.debian.org>
+ describing your package and asking for a sponsor.
+ </DD>
</DL>
</blockquote>
Index: nm-step1.wml
===================================================================
RCS file: /cvs/webwml/webwml/english/devel/join/nm-step1.wml,v
retrieving revision 1.13
diff -u -r1.13 nm-step1.wml
--- nm-step1.wml 2001/03/12 20:40:51 1.13
+++ nm-step1.wml 2001/08/15 10:13:39
@@ -9,7 +9,26 @@
<P>
Anyone can apply to become actively involved with the Debian Project, either
as a package maintainer or some other way. You can
-<A HREF="http://nm.debian.org/newnm.php";>apply</A> on the NM pages.
+<A HREF="http://nm.debian.org/newnm.php";>apply</A> on the NM pages. In
+order to apply, <A HREF="./newmaint#Applicant">the applicant</A> must
+have done some preparations already. You need:
+
+<UL>
+<LI>an existing developer who thinks that the applicant has sufficient
+knowledge to start the New Maintainer process. After signing up, this
+developer (called an <A HREF="./newmaint#Advocate">Advocate</A>) has to
+fill out a web form and thereby verify the applicant's application (More
+information about the Advocate system can be found in the
+<A HREF="./nm-advocate">guidelines for advocates</A>).
+<LI>a way to <A HREF = "./nm-step2">identify</A> himself (preferably by
+having a GPG key signed by an existing Debian Developer or, alternatively,
+by sending in a photo of his drivers license or passport signed digitally
+with his GPG key)
+<LI>enough experience in order to become an official Debian Developer
+(the preferred way is to have a package
+<A HREF =./newmaint#Sponsor">sponsored</A> by a Debian developer; of course,
+involvement in other free software projects counts as well).
+</UL>
<P>
Upon receiving the notice of application,
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