On Sun, Aug 07, 2005 at 04:16:28PM +0930, Clytie Siddall wrote: > >I visited http://www.linux-india.org/ with two different browsers. > >The page is broken, but the importand thing can be seen: > >The third line on the right has one of the vovel signs in question > >applied, too. > >I looked the page with two OSX apps, but that should be no problem. > > > >- - Omniweb shows the f-like character behind the first letter. > >- - Safari shows it in front of the first letter. > > > >So it must be more an application problem. If I paste it to a mail, > >both of them look equal: > > > >लिनक्स-इन्डिया में > >आपका स्वागत है। > > > >I see the f-like thingy at the beginning of the line here, when > >writing the mail. That is like Safari shows it and not like Omniweb > >shows it. > >I think, the same might happen for different X applications. > > > >The problem now is to find out, where the vovel sign should be > >placed. Then one can file bugs. ;-) > The really interesting thing here is that this eliminates the > decomposed/precomposed Unicode bug in this case: both Safari and > OmniWeb are Cocoa applications, and thus will display both decomposed > and precomposed Unicode appropriately. > I need to test this more with svashka's languages, though, although > they have the same combined-diacritic issues that mine does. > Undoubtedly she should be using a precomposed layout, and i really > wonder if the charmap _is_ a precomposed layout, since the position > of diacritics varies in different apps, and that tends to be an > artifact of decomposed input, where the character is not input as one > whole character, but the vowel and accents are input separately, and > thus can become separated during display, and even (in my becoming- > famous case) have unanchored accents chase the cursor around the page! FWIW, I'm pretty sure there is no such thing as a precomposed layout for devanagari script; the combinatorics (pairing each possible vowel sign with each possible consonant character, plus arbitrary numbers of combining forms for consonant clusters) don't lend themselves to assigning a separate Unicode codepoint for each combination, and indeed, I don't see any sign of these combos in Unicode. -- Steve Langasek postmodern programmer
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