[Carla Schroder] > But you almost make it sound like "if you really want in, you should > be prepared to jump through any hoops." That's not realistic. It *is* realistic, to a degree. But it leaves open the question of why you would want "in". This has been mentioned before but deserves reiterating, because it seems to be a very common misconception: it's perfectly possible to contribute to Debian, even in major ways, without a developer account. Some things are a bit less convenient, like uploading packages (because you have to work with an existing developer), but many things are just as easy either way. A few things are practical only for developers to handle, but only a few. And, as it happens, the hoops to jump through for most forms of contributing to Debian are much less daunting than the hoops for getting a developer account. In most other cases, it's mainly a matter of learning enough to make yourself useful. Peter
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