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Bug#1039051: Bug#1125294: gforth: Should gforth be removed from unstable?



Am Montag, 12. Januar 2026, 17:45:04 Mitteleuropäische Normalzeit schrieb 
Andreas Tille:
> Control: tags -1 moreinfo
> Thanks
> 
> Hi Anton,
> 
> thank you for your prompt response.  This is very much appreciated and
> I'm hereby use this as a good reason to tag the bug moreinfo to prevent
> any removal action for the moment.
> 
> Am Mon, Jan 12, 2026 at 02:19:18PM +0100 schrieb Anton Ertl:
> > Gforth users on Debian can build Gforth from the tarball or use one of
> > the .deb packages that Bernd Paysan builds (see https://gforth.org/).
> 
> I guess many users are happy about this service.  We should decide
> whether we should rather build the official Debian package by using the
> source package which is used to build these *.debs.  Unfortunately I
> only found binary packages but no source.
> 
> > The benefits are:
> > 
> > 1) You get documentation.
> > 2) You get the new features (albeit some are experimental).
> > 3) You get the full speed of Gforth.
> 
> I'm fine to bring those advantages also to the Debian package and I
> offer to work together with you on this goal.  The original Debian
> Maintainer requested adoption anyway so you are free to maintain the
> package inside Debian.  If you create a login on Alioth I'd happily
> give you permissions on the repository there.

I'm happy to jump in, and have registered a login on salsa, under the user 
name forthy42, which is now pending manual review.

> > If Gforth is removed from Debian, users will be forced to take this
> > path.
> > 
> > If Gforth on Debian continues as before, and users do not need the
> > advantages outlined above, they can use the Debian gforth package.
> 
> As I tried to explain:  Only users of old-stable (Debian 12) or Debian
> unstable can easily use the packages and we should fix this somehow.

Yes, indeed.

> > If Debian switches to a recent snapshot, you get advantage 2), and,
> > depending on how you do it, maybe also 3) and 1) (but probably not 1,
> > because the lack of documentation is intentional on the part of
> > Debian).
> 
> I would love to enable *you* to do it.  As I said, the former Debian
> maintainer stepped back, I personally will not take over the maintenance
> since I have way to much on my desk.  But I'd happily enable you shaping
> the official package in a manner you consider optimal for a typical
> user.  We have the principle of sponsoring in Debian.  So if you
> maintain the package in Salsa and ping me about uploading I will verify
> the packaging, check whether Salsa CI is passing and can sponsor
> (=upload) the package for you as an official package.
> 
> If you consider this a good idea I would be really happy.  If you
> think users might be served better with your snapshots and prefer if
> someone else might spent some time into the official Debian package
> we can see whether someone might step up.

As said above, I'm happy to maintain the package inside Debian, fix the 
problems in 0.7.x, and provide a convenient way to install Gforth-1.0 betas.

-- 
Bernd Paysan
"If you want it done right, you have to do it yourself"
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