On 03/02/2014 23:25, Adrian Bunk wrote:
On Mon, Feb 03, 2014 at 04:32:49PM -0500, Antoine Beaupré wrote:On 2014-02-03 16:22:38, Adrian Bunk wrote: ...But if someone wants, as Lorenzo suggested, an "apt-get install ffmpeg" to magically switch all applications like VLC from using libav to ffmpeg, then one of the requirements for that would clearly be that there would have to be two versions of all binaries and libraries using libav/ffmpeg in the archive - one compiled with libav, and one compiled with ffmpeg.I reread Lorenzo's email, and it doesn't actually say "switch all applications like VLC from libav to ffmpeg". He just said:users should be able to do apt-get install ffmpeg or apr-get install libavI think some people here are talking about using ffmpeg as a commandline-based conversion tool, not necessarily the way you are bringing up, as a library that (say) vlc is linking against.
That's what I meant in my message. I'm referrig to ffmpeg vs. avconv - I should probably have written:
apt-get install libav-tools to make it more clear.
Before what you quote he said in the same email: Agree with many on at least providing the *option* for users to have the original ffmpeg instead of libav There is no libav program, and he is clearly talking about the libraries.
Actually I meant the binary.I guess lots of the confusion (at least from a users' point of view) comes from the fact that the description of the ffmpeg package states:
" Libav is a complete, cross-platform solution to decode, encode, record, convert and stream audio and video.
This package contains the deprecated ffmpeg program. This package also serves as a transitional package to libav-tools. Users are
advised to use avconv from the libav-tools package instead of ffmpeg. Homepage: http://libav.org/ "Without getting into the politics of it... I think this is at least confusing for many user.
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The ffmpeg/libav commandline programs are relatively rarely used - what is used heavily on Linux are the libraries.
Do you have any data to support such claim? I personally use ffmpeg commandline tool quite a lot. Clearly being one person I'm not a representative sample but would be interesting to know if some sort of survey/statistics could be produced.
Ciao Lorenzo