This information is also important for this bug report, so resending here as well. On Friday, July 12, 2013 02:32:24 Christiano wrote: > Hi, I have read this: > http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=696548 > > I have applied to be the new maintainer. That's awesome that you're interested and motivated! GHDL definitely needs some care. However, there are several reason why development has stalled, and there are quite a few interested parties you'll certainly want to collaborate with, so please make sure you know the whole story about the current state of things between GHDL and Debian before diving in head first. =) I'd suggest to please start with my message here (also attached) in which I'd try to summarize the state of things from my perspective, and the following thread which followed: http://www.mail-archive.com/ghdl-discuss@gna.org/msg01725.html Then at least following the links in that message to: http://lists.alioth.debian.org/pipermail/pkg-electronics-devel/2013- May/003212.html and https://mail.gna.org/public/ghdl-discuss/2013-05/msg00002.html
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- To: GHDL discuss list <ghdl-discuss@gna.org>, pkg-electronics-devel@lists.alioth.debian.org
- Cc: brian@shapes.demon.co.uk, Joris van Rantwijk <joris@jorisvr.nl>, أحمد المحمودي <aelmahmoudy@sabily.org>, Jon Taylor <dosadi82@gmail.com>, Artur Rona <ari-tczew@tlen.pl>, Tristan Gingold <tgingold@free.fr>
- Subject: GHDL and Debian
- From: "Wesley J. Landaker" <wjl@icecavern.net>
- Date: Sun, 26 May 2013 11:39:18 -0600
- Message-id: <201305261139.26679.wjl@icecavern.net>
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On Sunday, May 26, 2013 04:07:47 Brian Drummond wrote: > On Sat, 2013-05-25 at 18:16 -0700, Jon Taylor wrote: > > > > I just installed Ubuntu latest on my new laptop, and when attempting > > to get GHDL installed I found out about this: > > > > http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=696548 > > > > TL/DR : if you're not up to building gcc from source, sorry there will > be a wait. > > I knew Wesley was looking into this but I didn't know he gave up from > time pressures; he only reported this to Debian, not here. Well, I'm not *completely* dead yet. =) I haven't retired from Debian, nor have I'm *totally* given up -- but, this isn't the first time I've mentioned some troubles (and had somewhat disheartening replies), e.g.: https://mail.gna.org/public/ghdl-discuss/2012-01/msg00007.html But yes, sadly, I'm very strapped for time in relation to what the GHDL package in Debian requires. Due to the many problems with keeping GHDL up- to-date and working with new compilers and on all currently-support Debian architectures <https://buildd.debian.org/status/package.php?p=ghdl>, just keeping GHDL *working* in Debian (not even counting upgrades or anything) has become a lot more work than it used to be. Although I plan to continue to contribute how I can, I really am hoping to find someone(s) to adopt the GHDL Debian package. Now, the current Debian GHDL package in unstable does work fine currently, due to some NMU package work done by Artur Rona. The package is removed from Debian's testing, which means GHDL will not go into stable Debian releases currently, but it is usable on any Debian system by pointing to the unstable repository and installing from there. http://packages.qa.debian.org/g/ghdl.html Joris van Rantwijk also has made some upgraded deb packages outside of the Debian infrastructure, which are available here: http://jorisvr.nl/ghdl_debian.html I really want GHDL to succeed and to work well in Debian, and I'll do what I can to help, but I'm not sure I have time to champion it any more; certainly I do not have time in the near future. A good path forward may be to put together a team of interested folks to maintain a good Debian package going forward, either based on my work in Git <git://git.debian.org/git/collab- maint/ghdl.git> (which needs some changes to get up to date), or starting from Joris' external package (which needs some changes to follow Debian's package requirements), and/or by integrating Debianization more closely into upstream development (which BTW, could grealy benefit from moving to Git). Of course, I'd love to also see us in the Debian+GHDL niche collaborating more efficiently and directly with the current upstream (which currently appears to me to de facto be Brian Drummond, although the original author, Tristan Gingold may still be working on it as well) as well as package maintainers from Ubuntu and Fedora and getting more of the hacks that distros are having to do into GHDL upstream, but it seems to me that is going to require at least one someone with enough time and motivation to coordinate things. Anyway, I'm cross-posting this to GHDL's ghdl-discuss and the Debian pkg- electronics team mailing lists, and CCing those directly involved in those two threads, or if I mentioned you by name in this e-mail. For those interested in the state of GHDL and Debian, I'd suggest subscribing to both of those mailing lists. Also, here are links to the two relevent threads I'm connecting with this e- mail, as I don't think all interested parties are all fully connected and communicating yet. =) http://lists.alioth.debian.org/pipermail/pkg-electronics-devel/2013- May/003212.html https://mail.gna.org/public/ghdl-discuss/2013-05/msg00002.htmlAttachment: signature.asc
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