Bug#576359: [Usb-creator-hackers] Bug#576359: Bug#582884: ITP: usb-creator -- Live USB creator
On 26 May 2010 23:50, Ignace Mouzannar <mouzannar@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Wed, May 26, 2010 at 12:10, Evan Dandrea <ev@ubuntu.com> wrote:
>> On Wed, May 26, 2010 at 12:42 AM, Ignace Mouzannar <mouzannar@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> Excellent job. Howerver, it seems that the version 0.2.23 has not been
>>> released by upstream yet. I prefer waiting for the new release before
>>> trying to upload it to Debian.
>>
>> This is a native package. 0.2.23 will be released when it's uploaded :).
>
> I should at least be tagged as so in its bzr main branch, before being
> released. Also, Dmitrijs told me this afternoon, that the plan was to
> release the version on Debian, so that it would get synchronized to
> Ubuntu. Is that right?
>
Depends. For general uploads there are no reasons to not do that. If
Ubuntu is close to different freezes/milestones there might be
releases pushed to ubuntu e.g. 0.2.XXubuntuY but those would be
hot-fixes for ubuntu something along the lines of 0day delay queue
NMU.
>>> As we will be maintaining this package for Debian, we will set
>>> ourselves in the Maintainer and Uploaders fields.
>>
>> Is this necessary? I'm more than happy to add people to the
>> usb-creator-hackers team. I'd really like to avoid having a delta
>> between Debian and Ubuntu on this, if possible.
>
> Having different maintainers on Debian and Ubuntu is not an important
> delta. Of course, it is helpful to have somebody from the team
> co-maintaining the package in Debian. Also, I don't see the inconvenient
> in keeping the Maintainer field as is (i.e. usb-creator Hackers Team)
> and listing Dmitrijs and myself in the Uploaders list for the Debian
> package.
>
>>> * .desktop files:
>>> - I am not convinced that usb-creator's Desktop file should appear
>>> in "System/Administration" as using it does not have an effect on the
>>> local system. I'd rather put it in "Application/System tools".
>>> What do you think about this?
>>
>> It has an effect on the devices attached to the local system. There
>> are other applications in System->Administration that are similar in
>> nature to usb-creator, such as GParted and Disk Utility (palimpsest).
>>
>> Does usb-creator not appear in the same menu as these two applications
>> in Debian? You don't specify that something goes into the
>> Administration menu in the XDG spec, but rather list a set of
>> categories it falls under. So if you're seeing different behavior for
>> similar programs, we might have the set of categories wrong.
>
> What I am trying to say, is that usb-creator is a sort of "USB-writer
> application" more than a local system configuration application. For
> instance, you do not need root privileges to run usb-creator; whereas
Yes and no with respect to root privileges, depends on the PolicyKit
setup on a particular machine.
> GParted asks for the administrative password when launched from the
> "System -> Administration" menu. Also, in Debian, "Disk Utility
> (palimpsest)" appears in "Application/System tools":
"User and groups" doesn't ask for the password when you launch it from
"System -> Administration" and later depending on the requested task
PolicyKit kicks in and might ask a password.
> -----------------8<-------------------------8<-----------------
> ~$ cat /usr/share/applications/palimpsest.desktop
> [Desktop Entry]
> Name=Disk Utility
> (...)
> Categories=GNOME;GTK;System;
> -----------------8<-------------------------8<-----------------
>
> This is why, I would rather see the usb-creator's menu shortcut in
> "Application/System tools".
>
I'm ok with implementing this as a Debian vendor modification ;-)
> Cheers,
> Ignace M
>
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