Hello Steve,
On Fri, May 30, 2008 at 02:10:38AM -0700, Steve Langasek wrote:
> On Fri, Feb 22, 2008 at 06:56:51PM +0100, Helge Kreutzmann wrote:
> I will pick up the maintenance of the aboot package in Debian.
Great!
> I don't know for how long that will be; I'm personally quite skeptical about
> alpha's prospects for lenny+1, because I don't see much future demand for
> the architecture, and my own alpha is only running for porting purposes so
> I would honestly prefer to be able to power it off and save electricity.
> But for the meantime, aboot has a home again.
Well, I liked alpha a lot, but production has ceased and the community
is rather small.
> Thank you for your contributions over the past few years! It's been a
> pleasure to work with you, even though I have a terrible track record as a
> sponsor for the package. :)
Well, ok. The main problem for me was the /dev/null phaenomena (I
think partially caused by e-mail communiction problems). So I'd be
glad if you include at least my changes over the last half year.
> > So what is the status?
> > *1.0~pre20040408-3 is "ready to go", 1.0~pre20040408-4 just started
> > (could be folded in -3). So if you like you could start with an
> > upload right away. I'm not a DD, so a "goodby upload" is impossible
> > for me.
>
> I don't see any -4 changelog entries in the CVS repository at all, only -3.
> Are these uncommitted changes then, or was the changelog just not updated
> with a new -4 version number?
Initially I commited -3 in the hope that this could be a quick upload
(see above, I don't know if my e-mails reached you). I started working
a little afterwards but did not commit at that time (after all, I
waited for -3 to be uploaded and I have no desire to learn proper
forking in CVS).
Recently I was told that I would soon loose remote access to an alpha
machine and I asked tbm if he could sponsor an upload with all changes,
so they could reach lenny. At that time I folded all my pending
changes into -3 (which you should be able to see at the commit
history). This is how I discovered #480364. Since I
did not have the time at that moment to dig into this, I cancled my
arrangement with tbm. I should not have any pending changes, but I
cannot check right now, will come back with that info next week
monday.
> > *Upstream is dead. I still have e-mail addresses, but both upstream
> > maintainers do not respond for a prolonged time already.
> > *I can still write in the CVS repository upstream, but I have no
> > privileges there to do releases and similar things.
>
> Under these circumstances, I'm going to treat the alioth project as the de
> facto upstream. My first change in consequence of this is to request the
> creation of a bzr repo to replace the current CVS repo on alioth; I'm long
> past the point where I can stomach to work with CVS on a regular basis, so
> leaving the package in CVS will only discourage me from working on it - and
> furthermore, it's my hope that switching to a distributed VCS will encourage
> better collaboration among whatever other alpha porters are still out there
> on other distros, with the side benefit of cementing the legitimacy of this
> new "upstream" source.
Based on this I will no longer try to reach upstream[1] nor will I
continue to mirror the debian changes into the alioth repository.
Maybe gentoo could be contacted and asked for patch exchange?
> You, of course, continue to be welcome to commit to the alioth (bzr)
> repository, whenever the desire strikes you. And maybe I can be somewhat
> less of an absentee landlord, with the possibility that we will get a new
> upstream release someday.
Fine with me. Is there an easy intro to bzr? I recently started
learning git, so I have some basic knowledge on distributed VCS. I
might still occasionally commit minor stuff, e.g. for packaging or
documentation/translation. And yes, a version 1.0 would be great!
Greetings
Helge
[1] I recently saw an interview with Will Woods and thought about
trying to extract his e-mail adress from there (haven't read the
interview yet)
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