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Bug#288379: I offer to look after the package for you untill you become a developer, Ian!



Hi,

Jonas Smedegaard wrote:
> >>>It looks fundamentally broken. Just sponsor it the normal way.
> >>
> >>Did you volunteer? Else please let me do it how I want to (as long as I
> >>do not break policies or in other ways bring our society in danger).

You do. You break the - unwritten iirc - sponsoring policy.

And you will make Ian have a hard time going through NM. In NM we check
if a prospective maintainer already has packages. If Maintainer: is you,
he has no package. And no, I won't accept a package which is not
Maintainer: the NM to be maintained by the NM and I think many other NMs
won't do it either. Because Maintainer: says it is maintained by you.
That he "sends patches" (note the "'s) is not enough for the
having-a-package-in-the-archive criterium. I don't know how the FD
handles them but he won't get approved so with some AMs I guess...

> I will not sign packages of non-developers, because (as stated earlier)
> I do not believe this works. Please, instead of persuading me to use my

Why not? Check their changes (interdiff, zless etc.) and then rebuild
fully and sign it.

Then your sponsoree sends you new .dsc and .diff.gz (and probably .orig
if there is a new upstream) and do the same.

> signature for something I do not believe in, go ahead and do so yourself!

I won't either. But you *check* the package before signing it. You look
at it. You build it youself. Just that the Sponsoree is Maintainer:

> Ian:
> 
> You are still welcome to have me help: Make a package and put it public
> somewhere (including sources). Then we can discuss possible improvements
> and I maintain the package (with your changes clearly declared as coming
> >from you, off course) until you can take it over yourself.
> 
> I assume you want to adopt this package because you believe it is for
> the good of Debian users, not only to proove your packaging skills.
> 
> If you believe that demonstrating your packaging skills this non-NM way
> hurts your case then off course you should not accept my offer.

As I said, I at last won't count that as a package maintained by him.
And now that we have this discussion I ponder trying to get him as NM...

> If package count was my goal, I'd go package a bunch of perl modules
> instead of helping upcoming maintainers.

You'll help him better doing it the usual way instead of taking over the
package and make him send patches (which is in fact the case then)...

Grüße/Regards,

René
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