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Bug#245692: Bug#204661: What about Stratagus?



El Lunes, 19 de Abril de 2004 05:58, Guilherme de S. Pastore escribió:
> Ender,
>
> According to your last follow-up for this bug, sent on November, 19th
> 2003, you granted you were going to start packaging Stratagus and
> prepare a transition from FreeCraft+FCMP to Stratagus+Aleona. Could I
> know what the status of your packages is?

	Hello, Guilherme.

	Sorry if I missed your mail these days. My access to my debian.org mail is 
being intermitent these weeks, because I am buying a new home and with my 
current work this is definitely being a hard task. :-)

> There are many people that want to play Stratagus. Among them, many
> have no idea of what it is to compile a program or even how to do it.
> On the other hand, among the people that know what a compilation is,
> used to play FreeCraft and now play Stratagus on a regular basis, there
> is a group of Official Debian Developers and Sponsorees (some already in
> the NM Process) who:
>
> 1) Would like to see Stratagus packaged
> 2) Intended to package Stratagus themselves
>
> I consider this an utterly unfair deprivation of people's freedom. Free
> Software's popularity is increasing absurdly. Each and every day we have
> a new user. However, we cannot say the same about their level of
> knowledge. There are people who have no idea on how to make stratagus
> work from source, others that have a superficial idea and do not want to
> try (prefer .deb's), and others who want to do the job, but are patiently
> waiting for someone to do it or drop it at once.
>
> Finally, I will be as direct as I can be, summarizing the whole e-mail
> in simple questions: Are you working on it? If you are facing
> difficulties, would you accept our help? If you are not interested at
> all, can we do the job?

	Yes, yes, and yes if I was not interested (but I am).

	In past times, when johns leaded the project, I was collaborative with the 
team releasing often and fixing things as well.

	When the "cease and desist" Blizzard letter arrived and the project was 
closed, I was active asking people if FreeCraft was going to be continued.

	Several months later, I started to hear from Stratagus, and #204661 arrived. 
But not until so much time ago stratagus was only a CVS-driven project.

	After that, Savannah CVS did not work, then the CVS moved to a provate CVS, 
and then the whole project changed from Savannah to SF again.

	It is damn difficult to keep up contacted with the project. Even then, I 
built CVS-based packages (but did not release them) several times.

	If you are interested, I would like you (or other people with Debian) to test 
some intermediate packages.

	The upgrade path from FC+FcMP to Stratagus+Aleona is not clear. I thought of 
it a lot. The Aleona CVS is in "import" state, with commit times as far as 9 
months. If you are familiar with the Aleona project, I will be more than 
happy to accept some advice.

	Also in a routine web browsing I discovered your WNPP application. Please 
withdraw it. I am serious: I keep interested in Stratagus.

	I am very active in the last times: I am closing as many bugs as possible in 
my packages. Query the BTS if you want.

	I do not want to be hostile, but I like my packages. And I consider stratagus 
one of them.

	Sorry if I am a bit harsh. If this is annoying you, please accept my 
apologies, of course. ;-)

	(Anyway, stratagus is lagging really one month and a half or two months since 
the official release. I do not think that this were *so much* time.)

	Best regards,


		Ender.
--
Network engineer
Debian Developer



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