On Jan 2, 2016 9:07 PM, "Michael Gilbert" <mgilbert@debian.org> wrote:
>
> On Sun, Jan 3, 2016 at 12:00 AM, Austin English wrote:
> > Yes, in theory. In practice, many users don't report their distribution,
> > and many developers ignore reports without the needed information.
> >
> > Why is it being overriden in the first place?
>
> Because when everything is working normally (the vast majority of the
> time for most users) debug output is just noise.
>
> For similar reasons debian puts debugging symbols into separate
> packages that the user has to explicitly decide to install.
>
> Best wishes,
> Mike
The vast majority of software that I run on Debian outputs noise, either to stdout, stderr, or ~/.xsession-errors. I don't see why wine should be a special case in that regard. If the output is blank or not attached, developer time is wasted doing several back and forth requests to get what's needed. I think developer time is way more valuable than reducing noise in a terminal that most don't even notice (and users can override themselves, if they want).
Debug symbols are a separate issue, it's common to strip those out, and we can usually get some useful info without them installed. If needed, we ask users to install them.