On Tue, 2025-07-22 at 14:37 +0100, Andrew Sayers wrote:
> It sounds like there's a knot of related issues here:
>
> * the URL structure hasn't been finalised, links are likely to break
Useful discussion from IRC:
<taavi> Jon: mediawiki wikis traditionally use domain.example/wiki/Foo, so
redirecting wiki.d.o/Foo to, say, wiki.d.o/wiki/Imported:Foo is just as
doable as wiki.d.o/wiki/Foo
<guillem> if the only two options would be whether to have to manually select
what to import, or to import everything into its own namespace,
personally I'd consider the latter preferable, as it again untangles
the different concerns from the transition
<guillem> and then anyone can go from the imported stuff and then move things
around when relevant
<guillem> taavi: re redirection: I guess the problem is what to do once the
imported page has then been moved into its final/proper/base
namespace, the old URL would stop working?
[...]
<taavi> guillem: moving a mediawiki page around leaves a redirect
(https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Help:Redirects) for the old title, which
I think makes that a non-issue
<guillem> or would then /Foo redirecto to /wiki/Imported:Foo which then would
redirect to /wiki/Foo ? (which seems a bit wasteful but at least
gives backwards compat)
IMO this last message is the best approach.
> * the license hasn't been finalised, content should be assumed disposable
> * the database may be wiped (accidentally or on purpose) at any time
Nothing important should be put there until consensus is reached on next
steps.
> * it's not clear how the change of platform will affect social dynamics
> * e.g. how will people feel about being contacted via Special:EmailUser?
Configuration isn't final, it still needs to be refined. For the example
you mentioned, IMO emailing users through the wiki should be disabled
entirely - it's unnecessary and will only cause problems.
[...]
> That would mean punting the final decision about migrating content
> (automatically or manually) until the beta version, but would also give
> lots of space to develop a migration script and find the edge cases where
> it does the wrong thing.
It's more about the approach on how to handle the current wiki content
in relation to the new MediaWiki instance, rather than experimenting and
working out what configuration/extensions are needed.
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Maytham
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