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Re: Moving forward with php



This one time, at band camp, sean finney said:

Disclaimer: I'm not now sponsoring or maintaining any apps that really
are affected by this policy discussion, but count me as an interested
consumer.

> -- php4 --
> 
> first things first, i want to bring up the topic of dropping php4.

Fully agreed.  I just finished a migration of several hundred customer
websites to new hardware, and in the process, we made the decision to
leave php4 behind.  One website broke (trivial forward port - about a 10
line patch) and one cronjob broke because it called php4 directly.  I
understand other people's experience may be different, but mine so far
is that the vast majority of code out there will run on php5 with little
or no changes.

> -- pear, pecl, and php policy --
> 
> afaik the pear/pecl situation is still really messy wrt debian php
> library/extension packages vs locally installed extensions.

Yes, I ran into this one time, and although I would have to look at my
notes to remember all the details, it looked like the search path for
extensions was almost an either/or.  Painful.

> -- misc packaging details --
> 
> does anyone mind if i drop the home-rolled patch system in favor of
> something a little more useful?

Quilt and dpatch are both great.  quilt is a little cleverer than dpatch
(allows for arbitrary comment styles at the tops of patches, can do -p0
or -p1 without issue), but both are fine tools.

I'd also love to see another webapps meetup at Debconf, if people think
they're interested.
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