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Re: CoC policy for package contents (was: Re: Can the community team remove packages or kick me out for not removing packages?)



Hi Wouter,

On Mon, 21 Jul 2025, Wouter Verhelst wrote:

> This is an accurate statement, I would think.
> 
> When I wrote the code of conduct, I did not make it explicit that I
> thought it was not meant to apply to the contents of packages, but I
> think that anyone who reads it can understand that this is the case by
> the language used.

I think the CoC is relevant for communication between people within
the Debian Community. Not for packages, or the content of packages.
it explains how we should behave. not what we expect from packages or
other people who are mostly not involved in debian.

we could decide which package-content someone might find offensive -
but is this for everybody? for all debian-developers the same? is it -
far more important - the same for our users?

if we decide to adapt the code of conduct for packages too, we will
open the door for any kind of repression of packages because "someone
might feel offended", as we just saw.

we will have these discussions as long as someone feels offended.
fortunes-off is now removed without any official voting about the
package, fortunes-*-off is in danger of receiving the same fate. not
because someone has been done, but someone thinks it could be
offensive, without checking the content. I do not think we want to
have a distribution where every package maintainer has to fear that
his package will be removed because someone finds something offensive
in his package.

I would prefer to have a repository where all controversial packages -
like fortunes-*-off, the bible, games which containt violence can be
put it and there is no dependency on these packages. Therefore,
everybody can decide wether he wants to have these packages or not.

best regards, Hanno Wagner
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