Re: Eternally paradigmatic Debian discussions...
On 17261 March 1977, Gunnar Wolf wrote:
1. Nobody really opposes what is being proposed.
The opposition is against technical details and the refusal to adjust.
Not against the actual thing.
4. I understand Sean (and Ian, I pressume) are pushing this GR to
solve a stalemate while negotiating with ftp-masters regarding
implementation details, or something like that. In such case, I
would have expected an ftp-master to explain what is so difficult
in accepting the new proposed tool/workflow.
I just tried to, in another mail in a new subthread. Including that the
GR proposal took me by surprise, as the last discussion *I* can find is
long ago.
In other words: Is there and underlying controversy? Or is it just
we enjoy poking each other?
Nah, we just don't enjoy getting our points ignored when asked and then
years later a hammer to overwrite.
This is one of the mails that actually point nowhere, and I fear are
not as constructive... I sat a bit with it half-written, pondering
whether to send it or to delete it. I am deciding to send it because
the interaction patterns we are seeing are quite pathological. I'm
sending this mail as a call, not only not to tell the other party to
fsck off some filesystems, but to stop finger-pointing and
second-guessing.
There *IMO* was one subthread going a particular bad way, where, even
after getting pointed out multiple times that the taken conclusion was
*WRONG*, text still went the wrong way, but the rest of it I found quite
useful/OK. Many of them mails gave me more insight into t2u and ideas
around it.
--
bye, Joerg
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